TTB piviot end C&T?

[ThomasJE3]

Searched but found little info on this.


I've been doing research, or at least trying to, on the pros and cons of modifying TTB beams for lift by relocating/modifying the pivot end of the beam vs. the spindle end
(like on this Bronco: http://www.gofastbroncos.com/forum/view ... 33&start=0 ).
I can see a few advantages to modifying the beams this way. One of the biggest ones being that from the outside it seems like a much easier modification to perform for a novice. A second one for me is all the shops that do conventional C&T are on the west coast which ends up almost doubling the cost of having my beams done.

That said, any info on the pros, cons, considerations.
Thanks

[Wrightracing.net]

One reason is that is gets the steering geometry back to a better place. Second is that the drop brackets are a weak point and retuning to the stock pivot and reinforcing it makes a more reliable setup.

They are done on the west coast because we live in the regions they are needed to race or to have a better play toy. Southern Cal is the birth place of modern Baja style off road racing.

Its not that hard to do a basic cut of the lower Ball joint mount and push it out 1/2 in. This does not make it a race setup and there is more to it than that but it is a good project for a descent welder. $500 plus $200 freight is not to bad for a basic c&t beams. Talk to Baja Scott on this forum, he is with Camburg. I have got a couple things from them and they do great work. I could have fabbed all of it myself but I wanted to save time.

[philofab]

Gunit has since changed back to a traditional beam with the BJ moved outward.

Changing the pivot height creates a lot of plunge on the center joint which binds under any power at all. That binding creates a lot of issues.

[gunit]

Gunit has since changed back to a traditional beam with the BJ moved outward.

Changing the pivot height creates a lot of plunge on the center joint which binds under any power at all. That binding creates a lot of issues.

What he said^^ Don't do it, you will never solve the axle plunge/bind issues.

[Wrightracing.net]

Ya, I have seen some beams cut in some weird way that deserved a (What the H*ll were you thinking.)

[Phoenix0783]

One reason is that is gets the steering geometry back to a better place. Second is that the drop brackets are a weak point and retuning to the stock pivot and reinforcing it makes a more reliable setup.

They are done on the west coast because we live in the regions they are needed to race or to have a better play toy. Southern Cal is the birth place of modern Baja style off road racing.

Its not that hard to do a basic cut of the lower Ball joint mount and push it out 1/2 in. This does not make it a race setup and there is more to it than that but it is a good project for a descent welder. $500 plus $200 freight is not to bad for a basic c&t beams. Talk to Baja Scott on this forum, he is with Camburg. I have got a couple things from them and they do great work. I could have fabbed all of it myself but I wanted to save time.

Baja Scott isn't with Camburg. Motoxscott (or Motoscottx?) is.

[Wrightracing.net]

Sorry I got them mixed up. So I will say Scott at Camburg

[ChaseTruck754]

But Baja Scoot does good beams for a good price too.

[Wrightracing.net]

That is cool, I just have not experience with that Scott. Scott at Camburg had a set of Shackles out to me the next day after I talked to his and he was reasonable on price. I have a couple people I have known for a while that I get advice from because I have seen them do work far above the quality of most. Although they have offered me help, I also don't want to be another mooch trying to get free help. I do try to pick their brains and learn by helping them if I can.

[ChaseTruck754]

That's a good way to be. I love doing work for friends about as much as I love doing work on my own truck. I can't say no & it's gotten me in trouble (not really, but delays stuff) a bit. Too bad now-a-days I don't have time to work on my stuff or my buddies.