1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Robert, Build the mounts with the front end completely compressed (without bump stops) and the shock almost completely compressed... You need some wiggle room for frame flex.
Putting the shock behind the bucket just makes for better packaging and less (hardly any) intrusion into the engine bay. It can work just as well as a shock in front of the bucket, just requires different valving.
Putting the shock behind the bucket just makes for better packaging and less (hardly any) intrusion into the engine bay. It can work just as well as a shock in front of the bucket, just requires different valving.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
10" passenger side tucks nicely under AC box and accumulator when behind the bucket a 14" in front on the pass side would be ok as well. Driver side looks like it will require relocation of most stuff on the fender liner. Steve G has more info on the decision matrix, I just went this way because of success of others. See this pic.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Thanks Steve that the way I will go.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
This looks soo cool I had to put a picture up of my 9"Nodular 3.25" however I used small races so I can run a 31 spline billet posi until I go 35 spline. I am still working on the front end just planning for the rear.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Ok I tried TIG welding today for the first time( I borrowed a Miller 180). I have always just used a wire feed mig. I made a plate and re-inforced the Pass side beam pivot first. I played with amperage and finally got some decent penetration and now I need to work on my presentation...
I will try plating this on the TTB pivots for now and see how they hold up.
I will try plating this on the TTB pivots for now and see how they hold up.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Looks good! What is your method for removing the rivets?
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Go Bob Go! I'm excited for another member of the white bronco mafia to hit the dirt!
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Nick wrote:Go Bob Go! I'm excited for another member of the white bronco mafia to hit the dirt!
Looks like the Secret Society of Black Bronco Owners is being over run. ha ha ha.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Those are pretty decent welds for a first timer!
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Thanks for the encourgement and support.
I got the rivets out by using a 4-1/2" grinder and taking the head as flush to the frame as I could. Then I used the oxy/acet torch with a #1 tip and a nice small blue flame and put a little heat in the center of now flush ground rivet until it just starts to turn dull red. My $86.00 Ingersol-Rand air chisel with the air compressor set at 120 psi and after a little pounding they usually comeout. If one is unwilling to yield I fall back on the 1/2" drill to finally get them.
I got the rivets out by using a 4-1/2" grinder and taking the head as flush to the frame as I could. Then I used the oxy/acet torch with a #1 tip and a nice small blue flame and put a little heat in the center of now flush ground rivet until it just starts to turn dull red. My $86.00 Ingersol-Rand air chisel with the air compressor set at 120 psi and after a little pounding they usually comeout. If one is unwilling to yield I fall back on the 1/2" drill to finally get them.
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those coil buckets are sweeeet!!!
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Any updates Bob?
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
bob are you getting rid of the tire carrier? If it's going to end up in the scrap pile, I'll take it.Bondobob wrote:Rear with stock bumper and tire carrier before removal
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Yes, I have some updates on the stuff in progress and the jury is out on the tire carrier. If I don't use it Steve it will find its way to you.
Worked on Drivers side pivot bracket. I will use a full shank Grade 8 to replace the factory fasteners on the beam OEM pivot points.
Worked on Drivers side pivot bracket. I will use a full shank Grade 8 to replace the factory fasteners on the beam OEM pivot points.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
More Driver and Passenger.... I will leave the Drivers Pivot bolt as is however I will probably need to cut the passenger one some to add more axle shaft clearance I will verify during mock up and cycling. I will keep track of the plating condition and hopefully this will be more than enough for now.
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Speaking of clearances I mocked up the beams and radius arms on final assembly I will add washers, I am concerned about axle shaft clearance with the bolt threads present inside the beams. I did not look at the OEM set up very closely before I took it apart.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Drain plug for D44 center section because it is a PITA to service the front diff otherwise.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Passenger side is mounted up and time to locate coil bucket and mount shock tabs. The question now is how far forward should I push the beam I know the common practice is 1"-1.5" I can pop my old knuckle on and bolt a wheel up for cycling as of this point. Is there a desired set measurement for wheelbase, estimate for how many threads on heim or just push til it almost hits? It is close to centered now but it was royal pain to get lined up. I hard mounted the radius arm to the beam, installed pivot bolt,then heim misaligns and bolt in the heim. Is there a better sequence or should I leave all stuff loose then tighten after all is in place. It seems like the beam bushing is in somewhat of a bind condition.
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Make sure you don't install the third mounting bolt until the beams and arms are mounted. Leave the beam to radius arm bolts loose as well so it can move while you're mounting everything. Tighten the pivot bolts then the beam to arm bolts then install the third mounting bolts. Use washers to fill the gap between the arm tab and back of the beam.
There is a specific measurement for mounting the radius arm pivot brackets. I don't remember What it is....
There is a specific measurement for mounting the radius arm pivot brackets. I don't remember What it is....
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Re: 1987 XLT "Bob's White One"
Radius arm Heims: Install nuts on Heims (as far as they'll go), bottom the Heim on the arm, thread out 3 turns then tighten jam nut and install arm.
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