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knuckle Taper Adapters
Anybody know who makes taper pins for the steering that have a 1/2" stud? Preferrably heat treated 17-4?
Anybody know the TRE taper?
Anybody know the TRE taper?
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The TRE taper is 7 degree if I remember right. You would be better off drilling for a F-911 bolts with misalignments. I think a 5/8 ends up working well.shockseals.com wrote:Anybody know who makes taper pins for the steering that have a 1/2" stud? Preferrably heat treated 17-4?
Anybody know the TRE taper?
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Years ago, someone told me Kartek used to stock them. This was when they were first getting into truck stuff, so it's been a while. I don't have any idea what they were made of, though.
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I found 1.5" per foot which is roughly 7.125 degrees. I will measure when i get home. Either should work.philofab wrote:The TRE taper is 7 degree if I remember right. You would be better off drilling for a F-911 bolts with misalignments. I think a 5/8 ends up working well.shockseals.com wrote:Anybody know who makes taper pins for the steering that have a 1/2" stud? Preferrably heat treated 17-4?
Anybody know the TRE taper?
I will be running misalignments. Drilling it sucks for the sole reason if you break a knuckle in the middle of nowhere and happen to get a knuckle...its that much more hassle to get going again. I was going to drill and double shear it but thats just over the top.
Leduc uses this stud/taper adapter set up on his x-over steering but he doesnt return calls. I know of a few leduc broncos running it without issue.
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You might not need a spacer at all as there's not a lot of misalignment. If the geometry is good you might be able to put the heim right on the knuckle.shockseals.com wrote:I will be running misalignments.
Exactly. Keep it simple. I didn't know Leduc used studs in the knuckles. It makes a lot of sense to me and I'm surprised we can't buy them at just about any desert off-road shop.shockseals.com wrote:Drilling it sucks for the sole reason if you break a knuckle in the middle of nowhere and happen to get a knuckle...its that much more hassle to get going again.
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IFAIK there is only a 10 and 7 degree taper used on balljoints/tie rods. It should be 7 degrees.shockseals.com wrote:I found 1.5" per foot which is roughly 7.125 degrees. I will measure when i get home. Either should work.
I will be running misalignments. Drilling it sucks for the sole reason if you break a knuckle in the middle of nowhere and happen to get a knuckle...its that much more hassle to get going again. I was going to drill and double shear it but thats just over the top.
Leduc uses this stud/taper adapter set up on his x-over steering but he doesnt return calls. I know of a few leduc broncos running it without issue.
Keep trying on contacting Leduc. He is a very busy guy, I have his and his sons cell number if you can't get a hold of him. PM for them.
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kartek sells a "9/16 taper" adapter for buggy guys. I dont even know WTF that means. It works out to be a 5 degree taper after I had him give me all the dims since I didnt know WTF 9/16 taper meant. They "dont know what material its made of but people have used it in the baja 1000" and they've "heard or ford guys using them in knuckles"SteveG wrote:You might not need a spacer at all as there's not a lot of misalignment. If the geometry is good you might be able to put the heim right on the knuckle.shockseals.com wrote:I will be running misalignments.
Exactly. Keep it simple. I didn't know Leduc used studs in the knuckles. It makes a lot of sense to me and I'm surprised we can't buy them at just about any desert off-road shop.shockseals.com wrote:Drilling it sucks for the sole reason if you break a knuckle in the middle of nowhere and happen to get a knuckle...its that much more hassle to get going again.
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Well if it's good enough for the most grueling point to point race in the world then it's good enough for YOU Mr. customer.shockseals.com wrote:They "dont know what material its made of but people have used it in the baja 1000" and they've "heard or ford guys using them in knuckles"
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Check out BCBroncos.com. It sounds like this is what you are looking for. http://www.bcbroncos.com/steeringlinkage.html
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Thanks. Thats close, but for independent suspension it needs to use misalignments not just bolt straight to the heim like that.11wnb wrote:Check out BCBroncos.com. It sounds like this is what you are looking for. http://www.bcbroncos.com/steeringlinkage.html
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You might want to measure the amount of misalignment, Kris. If you can't go straight to the knuckle with a heim you could probably get away with a really small spacer between the two.
EDIT: With the stock steering, the driver side wheel has tons of misalignment at the outer tie-rod end, the passenger side (which is duplicated with a single swinger) has little misalignment.
EDIT: With the stock steering, the driver side wheel has tons of misalignment at the outer tie-rod end, the passenger side (which is duplicated with a single swinger) has little misalignment.
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These probably arent exactly the geometry you are looking for but Speedway may give you a lead if you give them a call. Maybe Stock Car Products or Affco also.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Adjustabl ... ayId=35534.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Adjustabl ... ayId=35534.
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Fodrill makes them. 4130 heat treated...picked them up from ORW.
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I also picked up a lot of 8 of them since it was a good deal this week...if anybody needs a set let me know.
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I have bought some from mckenzies for other projects
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I'm confused, what exactly are you doing? Sorry for the stupid question, just haven't been around long enough to know.
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He is replacing his stock steering with hiem joints without modifying his knuckles.hobbyturnedobsession wrote:I'm confused, what exactly are you doing? Sorry for the stupid question, just haven't been around long enough to know.
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I kind of got it. That replaces the tres right?
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Yes.hobbyturnedobsession wrote:I kind of got it. That replaces the tres right?
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