Philo's 93 Bronco aka "Lucky Bronco #3"

[philofab]

Sway bar? isn't that the point of the airshock?

Mike

The airshock helps a little bit but the point of it is to eliminate the upper links. I'd add one to the front but I don't want it pushing through the corners.

[DirtFiend602]

awesome! youre adding a swaybar to the front end or the front of the rear axle?

[only1mikey]

I don't get it, why run a tunable air shock and a sway bar, it just seems redundant. If you want more sway control, valve the air shock stiffer or add more N2 pressure. That's one of the perks of the DDL, it's not like your gas tank is in the way of your upper links on a Bronco.

Why not just run a parallel 3 or 4 link, with the drag link if you want a swap bar and dont mind the side to side movement of the drag link?

Not talking shit, just trying to wrap my feeble brain around what you are trying to do here.

Mike

[philofab]

The DDL will also absorb some driveline impact... important since I run a manual trans. I could add more pressure to the shocks for more sway control, but with a sway bar I can add a disconnect for offroad use vs the street. I may install the air bags on the sway bar arms, to move them out of the way and reduce the travel the bag sees.

Geoff's Bronco sways a lot on the street, and since I drive this to and from races I'd like to make it slightly more streetable. I'm toying with a electronic sway bar disconnect I designed too and I need something to test it on.

I could run a traditional 4 link but a triangular setup would need to be attached to the center section witch is a pain on cast center sections. The slight side to side movement of the panhard isn't a big deal... I've never been able to feel it while driving. The street guys that have 4" of travel freak out about it too. I also don't really care for the location of the upper bars on a Bronco without a stretch.

The last thing is it irks me how many people say this system will not work and I like proving people wrong. It will also help Geoff out for his product to get seen (Not many DDLs out there).

[bajascott]

the kit looks complicated to me, but i am not well versed in link set ups, that is why i am having my stuff made... i think geoff has some interesting ideas. i'll be watching...

[only1mikey]

Oh it works, I've seen it in action, I just think the sway bar, with air shocks is redundant, but you did make some valid points.

As for welding to the cast center section, that's why I suggested an un-triangulated 3 or 4 link with the pan hard rod.

And I hear you on sway philo, my bronco was a bear to drive on the highway with soft leafs, but single swing steering cleared that right up.

Mike

[philofab]

Thanks Shockseals.com!

[DirtFiend602]

Flipping sweet ass coozies

[philofab]

Flipping sweet ass coozies

Yep. The Blue one matches the Bronco and the Orange will match the F100.

[philofab]

Not much of an update... Took the top off for a few days at the river. Also got some new oil to test with the new rear end. Still collecting parts...

[BajaF250]

Also got some new oil to test with the new rear end. Still collecting parts...

Hey Philo,
So, what does the test consist of? Are you going to run the oil under certain predetermined conditions and then send oil samples to the lab? Or, just run it under your normal operating tempo and test it? What precisely are you testing?

[philofab]

Hey Philo,
So, what does the test consist of? Are you going to run the oil under certain predetermined conditions and then send oil samples to the lab? Or, just run it under your normal operating tempo and test it? What precisely are you testing?

Im not that scientific. Just going to run it and see if I like it.

[Frontrunner54]

Not much of an update... Took the top off for a few days at the river. [/quote]

Cheater... You cant do that and post pics of it too.
I've dropped mine twice now, and the last time I was like Damn, I wish I had a fork lift.

[BajaF250]

Hey Philo,
So, what does the test consist of? Are you going to run the oil under certain predetermined conditions and then send oil samples to the lab? Or, just run it under your normal operating tempo and test it? What precisely are you testing?

Im not that scientific. Just going to run it and see if I like it.

Cool, the best test of all... all the fun with none of the work!

[BajaF250]

I've always loved the look of the Bronco without the top... Nice.

[philofab]

Coming soon:

Pictures that work again.

New dual Walbro fuel pumps since changing the factory fuel pump every year is getting old. Getting rid of the stupid plastic cartridge thing too. Factory pump likes to die once it gets to 129F (54C for you Rod) here.

A nice hole in the floor in case I need the change the pump somewhere other than my shop.

[SteveG]

Coming soon:

Pictures that work again.

New dual Walbro fuel pumps since changing the factory fuel pump every year is getting old. Getting rid of the stupid plastic cartridge thing too. Factory pump likes to die once it gets to 129F (54C for you Rod) here.

A nice hole in the floor in case I need the change the pump somewhere other than my shop.

Nice. Maybe the next step will be a cooling system for the fuel tank.

I'm using an external pump on my Bronco simply because I don't want to go into the tank to change a pump. The access panel makes it a non-issue, though.

[philofab]

Nice. Maybe the next step will be a cooling system for the fuel tank.

I'm using an external pump on my Bronco simply because I don't want to go into the tank to change a pump. The access panel makes it a non-issue, though.

I don't see why I would need a cooling system as every other cor/truck I've ever owned out here NEVER had this problem, even the Jag.

I'd do a External pump but I think having a separate lift pump would make it too complicated for any benefit and without it they seem to have priming issues.

Looks like this tank will be getting two Walbro 255LPH hi pressure pumps with new bulkhead connectors on the hangar for upgraded 12ga wiring. I'm going to keep the EEC control of the pump but add two Bueller relays and a toggle switch to change between the two. 45 amps a piece should be adequate. I have extra room in my relay box since the ABS and some other junk went bye bye.

Overkill but according to my receipts I have spent $1600 on fuel pumps alone for Big Bertha and this Bronco.

[Copykat]

Just be carefull with the 255 pumps. I was told because of the increase in return flow the fuel heats up. The 255's don't like heat and will shut down. Unless you are going to need the extra flow of the 255, (boost). Otherwise I would stick to the stock pumps. Just check to make sure there are no restrictions in your return line that could be compressing the fuel, causing un needed heat.

[SteveG]

I was joking about the cooling system. I should have added [sarcasm][/sarcasm].