Suspension seat on stock slider. Who's done it?

hollandermotorsports · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:28 am

We ditch the secondary slider on top due to the fact it lifts the seat higher as mentioned above as well as too many moving components. Basically you have 2 sets of rails stack on each other with a built in slip fit so it feels like your seat is loose at all times as well as added stress when you side load. This is just the route I go. And there are many ways to butter toast. Also My average customers are 6' and taller so the added height on the wheel is not as comfortable. Also if you leave the upper slider make sure you make a handle for actuation of the top. I weld my frames because I ditch the top slider therefore you lose the flat surface that you bolt to. But like I said many ways are successful and do work. If you are in the SoCAl area I have a customer bronco at my shop with my set up installed you are welcome to test drive with your butt to see if it is comfortable for you. I'm 6'3" and will not fit with both sets of sliders. A suspension seat with vertical tabs is about 1.5"-2" taller then stock seat so check your height stack up.

RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:59 pm

I made mine with 2 different holes, I'll probably use the lowest one I'm 6'2. I'll find out when I get home...

hollandermotorsports · Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:26 pm

RyanDS650X wrote:I made mine with 2 different holes, I'll probably use the lowest one I'm 6'2. I'll find out when I get home...

Very nice let us know what works best for you height wise. I am always in different peoples opinions.

hollandermotorsports · Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:30 pm

*Interested*

rdcjuanb · Post by **rdcjuanb** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:15 pm

RyanDS650X wrote:I made mine with 2 different holes, I'll probably use the lowest one I'm 6'2. I'll find out when I get home...

That looks simple enough. I need to do the same thing eventually.

RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:13 pm

I used 20" pieces to give me room for error. My PRPs at 18" on center and the stock slider bolt holes are 14 3/4" (front to back) just make sure you get the width measurement right for between the tabs ( left to right) or open up the holes you make for the slider surface to move horizontally.

RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:42 am

Done! I'm about an inch higher but the the stock seats were so hammered I would imagine I'm back to where I should be.

Wrightracing.net · Post by **Wrightracing.net** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:50 am

Not everyone has to worry about it but if you have a cage and the main hoop is behind the seat your head gets close to the bar if you lean the seat back. I personally prefer the seat more upright.

One thing for us big boned guys, oh heck with it, fat guys, we sit higher in the seats, even with +4 wider MasterCraft seats. When I had my seats on the stock 86 slider, it put my head way to close to the cage. I ended up making a flat adapter plate to the oem floor holes to use the sliders from MasterCraft and it lowered the seat by 2.5".

At that time I only had the cage in the rear of the Bronco, so I did not have a place to mount the seats to the cage yet. Now that I am taking the cage to the front, I plan to recess the tubing into the floor with a custom slider on tubes with Delrin bushings. For me, I want the seat as low as possible for more room to avoid the cage, even with a helmet on.

I may be 5'10" but my big as* makes me like 6'+ in addition to the fact I hate seats that lean back like sports cars or the old sand rails.

That is just my experience as a big guy.

And don't get me started on the Class 1 and Class 8 seating that I have drove. I felt like a sardine in a extra small can. Deffinitley was not as comfortable as I would have preferred.

Us big guys need seat time to!!!!

rdcjuanb · Post by **rdcjuanb** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:52 am

Wrightracing.net wrote:Not everyone has to worry about it but if you have a cage and the main hoop is behind the seat your head gets close to the bar if you lean the seat back. I personally prefer the seat more upright.

One thing for us big boned guys, oh heck with it, fat guys, we sit higher in the seats, even with +4 wider MasterCraft seats. When I had my seats on the stock 86 slider, it put my head way to close to the cage. I ended up making a flat adapter plate to the oem floor holes to use the sliders from MasterCraft and it lowered the seat by 2.5".

At that time I only had the cage in the rear of the Bronco, so I did not have a place to mount the seats to the cage yet. Now that I am taking the cage to the front, I plan to recess the tubing into the floor with a custom slider on tubes with Delrin bushings. For me, I want the seat as low as possible for more room to avoid the cage, even with a helmet on.

I may be 5'10" but my big as* makes me like 6'+ in addition to the fact I hate seats that lean back like sports cars or the old sand rails.

That is just my experience as a big guy.

And don't get me started on the Class 1 and Class 8 seating that I have drove. I felt like a sardine in a extra small can. Deffinitley was not as comfortable as I would have preferred.

Us big guys need seat time to!!!!

Preach on... ha ha

hollandermotorsports · Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:23 pm

Wrightracing.net wrote:Not everyone has to worry about it but if you have a cage and the main hoop is behind the seat your head gets close to the bar if you lean the seat back. I personally prefer the seat more upright.

One thing for us big boned guys, oh heck with it, fat guys, we sit higher in the seats, even with +4 wider MasterCraft seats. When I had my seats on the stock 86 slider, it put my head way to close to the cage. I ended up making a flat adapter plate to the oem floor holes to use the sliders from MasterCraft and it lowered the seat by 2.5".

At that time I only had the cage in the rear of the Bronco, so I did not have a place to mount the seats to the cage yet. Now that I am taking the cage to the front, I plan to recess the tubing into the floor with a custom slider on tubes with Delrin bushings. For me, I want the seat as low as possible for more room to avoid the cage, even with a helmet on.

I may be 5'10" but my big as* makes me like 6'+ in addition to the fact I hate seats that lean back like sports cars or the old sand rails.

That is just my experience as a big guy.

And don't get me started on the Class 1 and Class 8 seating that I have drove. I felt like a sardine in a extra small can. Deffinitley was not as comfortable as I would have preferred.

Us big guys need seat time to!!!!

I set my personal seats pretty straight up close to wheel to help minimize arm fatigue. When you do 400+ miles in a day through Baja or Racing; wheel and seat placement is critical.

Yes my old Trophylite had some big kid tweeks to it so I could drive comfortably. Our 7200 truck was built around 2 guys that were vertically challenged needless to say we had to push in and out of the trailer until pedal location was modified before we could ever drive it lol. We had to switch to a composite seat instead of suspension as well due to space constraints. I have only raced a couple cars that I was totally comfortable in one is Jim Westwood's class 8 and the other is Robert Pickering's Brenthal class 6/7200 which is now a 6100. Everything else we have either tweeked for room or I get out with bruises or scuffs on my helmet.

Wrightracing.net · Post by **Wrightracing.net** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:24 pm

hollandermotorsports wrote:
Wrightracing.net wrote:Not everyone has to worry about it but if you have a cage and the main hoop is behind the seat your head gets close to the bar if you lean the seat back. I personally prefer the seat more upright.

One thing for us big boned guys, oh heck with it, fat guys, we sit higher in the seats, even with +4 wider MasterCraft seats. When I had my seats on the stock 86 slider, it put my head way to close to the cage. I ended up making a flat adapter plate to the oem floor holes to use the sliders from MasterCraft and it lowered the seat by 2.5".

At that time I only had the cage in the rear of the Bronco, so I did not have a place to mount the seats to the cage yet. Now that I am taking the cage to the front, I plan to recess the tubing into the floor with a custom slider on tubes with Delrin bushings. For me, I want the seat as low as possible for more room to avoid the cage, even with a helmet on.

I may be 5'10" but my big as* makes me like 6'+ in addition to the fact I hate seats that lean back like sports cars or the old sand rails.

That is just my experience as a big guy.

And don't get me started on the Class 1 and Class 8 seating that I have drove. I felt like a sardine in a extra small can. Deffinitley was not as comfortable as I would have preferred.

Us big guys need seat time to!!!!
I set my personal seats pretty straight up close to wheel to help minimize arm fatigue. When you do 400+ miles in a day through Baja or Racing; wheel and seat placement is critical.

Yes my old Trophylite had some big kid tweeks to it so I could drive comfortably. Our 7200 truck was built around 2 guys that were vertically challenged needless to say we had to push in and out of the trailer until pedal location was modified before we could ever drive it lol. We had to switch to a composite seat instead of suspension as well due to space constraints. I have only raced a couple cars that I was totally comfortable in one is Jim Westwood's class 8 and the other is Robert Pickering's Brenthal class 6/7200 which is now a 6100. Everything else we have either tweeked for room or I get out with bruises or scuffs on my helmet.

You know Big Jim Westwood and His Son Josh? I have the rear Leafs off the Class 8 from when it was a Full Stock. I use to Chase for Glen, Josh and Ramsey a few years back.

RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:28 pm

Race Truck and Fun Runner are different animals. I wouldn't expect to see this application on a race vehicle.
I will say that having so much support almost makes me sleepy just driving around and it is a much more connected feel when your not having to hold yourself in the seat.

Kartman · Post by **Kartman** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:33 pm

I have +4 MC Baja RS seats on sliders that are mounted to the cage. As a large and tall guy (6'4") height was a concern. We did end up getting them low enough so my head can clear all cage tubes.