Sept 11th More Chili Cookoff; Lucerne

[tcm glx]

So, apparently MORE has recieved the green light for their next race, so proud to say I will be out with Kaveman Motorsports again!!

Sept 11th, S/F off Camp Rock Road
Start at 830 am

http://moreracing.net/entry/updated/list/entry.htm

[shockseals.com]

I will be out Friday and Saturday.

[hobbyturnedobsession]

did they get the green light? this morning they said all the permits were on hold?

[tcm glx]

MDR has there permits on hold, this race is sanctioned by MORE. They have the green light.

[hobbyturnedobsession]

Awesome. Ok, sorry I was half awake when they said they were holding permits. Thought that for all races in Lucerne.

[Polarcub]

I will be missing this one thanks to the Navy once again. I hope everyone has a great time and a safe trip. I am curious to see what new rules will be added to the race. Please be safe out there and Have a great time. For those heading out for the Kaveman Team thank you for your outstanding support. Hopefully it will pay off we are overdue!

[usmcgunrock]

I will be out there with Dirt Mob. First race with the new class 1 car.

[tcm glx]

Over 120 entries now..., Map is up:
http://moreracing.net/10/maps/chili.pdf


Stay 150' off the course in bold red letters!!

[Polarcub]

Just a quick update on the extra rules for all. There will be extra law enforcement present that will be aiding in maintaining the 150ft standoff. If you are racing Jim has stated that you will receive a single warning with regards to adhering to the rules. If you are found in violation a second time you will be asked to leave and will not race. I am assuming that pit/chase teams will be cited under the team they are supporting.
Also it appears that MDR will no longer be allowed to sanction races in Barstow/Lucerne. BLM has stated that only 1 org will be given permits. This means that entries will be approx double the normal draw as MDR racers joi up with MORE. This also means that the area will be even more crowded. The larger field will make for some great racing but all chase/PIT?Drivers will need to be even more alert to the hazards.
JIM/RON are passing info as they get it hammered out with BLM. It has been stated that approx 15 pages of new rules have been added. For the most up to date info check out MORE's web site and the race talk forum.

[philofab]

Same weekend as Primm 300 which I am working.

[Polarcub]

Public Service announcment: I am not 100 percent clear on this but it looks like ANYONE that is going to be in Main Pits will be required to be banded and have paperwork on file with MORE. This means that banding/paperwork will need to be in at tech friday. I know My brother and Tony are working on this for the Kaveman Team but I thought it was good info to share with all. I dont beleive if youa re spectating in other areas the rule will apply but I beleive any remote pits/chase will need to be banded. I will share more info as I find out about it.

[78Class3]

So does that mean that MDR is finished for good if the only permits are gonna be given to MORE? If that is the case I don't think that is fair.

[Polarcub]

So does that mean that MDR is finished for good if the only permits are gonna be given to MORE? If that is the case I don't think that is fair.

WRT to in Barstow/Lucerne I do beleive that it will be some time before BLM approves permits for another promoter. I beleive 2010 permits were pulled as part of the federal investigation into the incident.
I have not specifically looked but I beleive the san diego BLM may still be allowing them to race? Nothing has been said that I have seen regarding that.
My gut tells me that MDR is going to have a rough time over the next year or so as I am sure there will be financial strains on the orginization as the result of civil actions ( I hope not but...)
I do not beleive that the actual fate of MDR has been set in stone I am trying to stay abreast of info as losing a race org is not a good thing for any of us. Only time will tell at this point.

[Polarcub]

Some more info to share this is copied form a post JIM made regarding the rules for the race, I expect that there will be a more complete list in the next week or so :
Jim & Ron will be at tech to answer your question.

There will be a mandatory drivers meeting where all drivers or co drivers will sign in. If you are not signed in no race.


DO NOT SET UP YOUR PIT AT THE NEXT EVENT WITHOUT TALKING TO JIM OR RON.


1. The Driver of record will be responable for all the People in his or her group. and to see they are aware of the rules set force.

2. Entrants, pit crew members and family waive any claim they may have against promotor, its officals when voluntarily participating in event and the BLM.

3. There is a set back for all spectators 150' from the edge of the course.

4. There is a set back rule for Pits of 125' form edge of course.

5. There will be NO Drinking of intoxicating beverages in the pits.

6. There will be a speed limit thur Start Finish and some outline areas on the course during the race of 50 MPH.

7. There will be a speed limited of 15 MPH in the Pits during the race.

8. There will be a speed limit of 40 MPH at all road crossing, starting at road crossing marking to pass crossing.

9. When Start/Finish is set up and no race has started and people are around there will be a speed limited of 30 MPH thur all the start/finish area if you come with 50' of people the speed goes to 15 MPH. testing will be done at 200' Pasts
the end of the Start/Finish area no racing what so every in the Start/finish area.

10. At any time any where on BLM property race or no race the speed limit within 50' of people is 15 MPH

11. during the race it is the responablity of the driver to report right away to MORE of anyone on the course or not following the setback rules

12. any team that give a monitor or crossing worker, any lip or trouble will be DQ right away.

13. If you have trouble during the race you are to get off the course as much as possible and out of the way of danger

14. There will be no one in the pits that has not sign a release. the driver of record is responable for this.

[Polarcub]

Hey guys I just wanted to wish everyone good luck and have a safe trip at the race. Wish I was going to be there with you all. Hope everyone has a great time.

[shockseals.com]

So does that mean that MDR is finished for good if the only permits are gonna be given to MORE? If that is the case I don't think that is fair.

MDR should have been banned from putting on races years ago...but thats a whole different thread.

[tcm glx]

I will be off the powerline road at MM15 and MM25 throughout the day guys... will look for all of you in the main pits in the morning, or if your out playing, stop by!

[Polarcub]

More info taken from RDC:
off the MORE site just now

After 2pm on Friday any and all pre running will be at 35 mph throughout the desert, anywhere on the course.. Course is Closed after 5pm Friday, No Pre-running, period.

[Rwies]

Good to know Jeremy! See you guys out there

[ChaseTruck754]

Slight update below that I grabbed from another buggy type site I watch.

Be good, mind your P's and Q's out there and kick ass Kaveman! I don't want to know I missed the last race ever in Barstow - hahaha


Just posted by jim:

6703) Jim@more
Jim@moreracing.net
Location:
Barstow

Thursday, September 9, 2010 07:56 PM Host: cpe-24-25-202-124.san.res.rr.com

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1. After a 2 1/2 hour meeting this morning with the BLM the following rules were force on us. From the orange colored markers to the pit is 100'. Form the orange colors markers to the front of your Motorhome which will be behind the pits. is 150'

2. At line up no one will come into the line up area only the car and driver.

3. To watch the start you will be back 150' from course unless you are in the pits.

4. There will be a Spectator fence set up to watch the race from there.


There are a lot of new rules all set by the BLM I have no say in them. If you don't follow the rules. There will be no more permits issue. There will be 14 BLM rangers, Sheriff department and our Insurance Co here for this event. everyone MUST be on their best behavior

Before this is over we are going to be like Vegas everything will be closed no pre running and no one will be allowed anywhere except in the start area. the Biggest concern is spectators with the BLM