RMC's el hefe build.

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:13 pm

Question guys: I'm thinking my leafs may be too soft.
Option 1: order up a set of q80's
Option 2: get the 64's
Option 3: get the dude at e&c spring company to put his money where his mouth is and rework my nationals to hold more weight. I'm leaning toward option 1

BDKW1 · Post by **BDKW1** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:28 am

Have you even driven it off-road yet?

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:47 am

No but it's sitting on the bumps at ride height. These nationals came off a 1450 truck. Granted I need to shorten the bumps to 2" stroke but you see where I'm going with this. It squatted a bunch under it own weight.

tcm glx · Post by **tcm glx** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:02 am

Rmc wrote:No but it's sitting on the bumps at ride height. These nationals came off a 1450 truck. Granted I need to shorten the bumps to 2" stroke but you see where I'm going with this. It squatted a bunch under it own weight.

Post up some pics........

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:15 am

I remember your bumps looked like the were mounted lower than normal in earlier pics. What is the measurement from bottom of the frame to top axle tube. Maybe someone w/ q80s can give you there measurements for comparison.

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:28 am

Found the pic. Most I've seen run the axle tube to the frame or close looks like you missing out on a bit of up travel before bump.

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Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:44 am

Yes I am short an inch negative. But reason is I changed my mind half way through if you guys recall. Basically when I shit canned the wedge blocks I lost 1 1/4 inches of upstroke which became an issue with the previously placed bump stops. So I screwed up the proper progression. At the same time I was not wanting to do the cage instead just a few hoops for temporary. So the bump cans will be cut off and replaced a bit higher but it still only leaves me with 6 inches or so of upstroke on the shock. My current shock placement has 1.5 upstroke unused at full tuck for this reason. No job worth doing unless your willing to do it twice lol

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:53 am

If it were me, I would bump the axle to the frame and build my bump and shocks to that. Up travel I key. Id rather have less life with the springs that always be in the bumps and bucking. It may not be an issue just my $.02

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:24 pm

cs_drums wrote:If it were me, I would bump the axle to the frame and build my bump and shocks to that. Up travel I key. Id rather have less life with the springs that always be in the bumps and bucking. It may not be an issue just my $.02

Good point.

BDKW1 · Post by **BDKW1** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:50 pm

I have never got the whole "shorten the bumps" thing. If you don't like how hard they hit initially, run lower pressure and more oil to keep the fully compressed force where you need it. I would rather have it more progressive than shorter and harsher to deal with the short stroke.

But yeah, I would move them up also. Up travel is key.

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:04 pm

... So I was thinking about it on the way home, I think I'm 2.5 inches lower than I origionaly set the rear bumps for. 3/4 shackle, 1.5 or 2 in the wedge removal/ factory perch. That's what I get for trying not to do it the right way from the beginning.

Trever Leach · Post by **Trever Leach** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:41 pm

I did not shorten my rear bumps on my race truck (although I have 13" of bump travel) but in the front I shortened them. The reason for shortening them is they are a "bump stop" not another shock. Although in theory that is what they are. When in the smaller chop 18-24" whoops I had alot of chop in the front end. During some testing I discharged the front bumps and it took that choppyness out but then hit hard in the holes. When I shortened the bump it gave me the best of both worlds.

Your bigest problem is that yes you need to bump almost touching the frame then go from there

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:11 pm

Appreciate the pointers guys, It's on my to do list. Along with finishing my cage work up front, dash ect. But my desiel is in the shop right now so the bronc is my gas guzzling way to work so I can't do too much till I get the other back. In the mean time I'm working on some front end stuff to put on soon.

BDKW1 · Post by **BDKW1** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:17 am

Rmc wrote:the bronc is my gas guzzling way to work

LOL, My SD gets almost twice the mileage that the Barge got. Sad when you think about it.

Andy Jones · Post by **Andy Jones** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:53 pm

Rmc wrote:Appreciate the pointers guys, It's on my to do list. Along with finishing my cage work up front, dash ect. But my desiel is in the shop right now so the bronc is my gas guzzling way to work so I can't do too much till I get the other back. In the mean time I'm working on some front end stuff to put on soon.

Yeah !!! Get that front end stuff done, man!!!

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:33 pm

Lol getting closer Andy.

Andy Jones · Post by **Andy Jones** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:49 pm

Rmc wrote:Lol getting closer Andy.

Haha !! Just teasing

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:32 pm

Soooo 3600$ later I got my desiel fixed and its running like new sob sob and a oh ya I ordered some q80's that should be in wed or thurs. I get my dd back from wifie and can resume on the bronco. That Friday the 13th was sure rough

BDKW1 · Post by **BDKW1** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:25 am

3600? Ouch! What did they replace?

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:10 am

8 injectors, oil n filters, alternator, glow plug control module, injector tubes, fuel filters.

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