1996 Eddie Bauer

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Mon May 06, 2019 5:22 pm

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Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Tue May 28, 2019 9:02 am

Worked on wiring up my trans temp gauge Saturday. I think i may have to re-think some of the wiring as i used temporary fuse-taps to pull power light. I may keep the power feed as is, but i want to move the lighting power to the illumination input for the stereo so i can utilize the dimming function. Also, the spade terminals really don't fit in the autometer housing. Go figure.

I built a small pigtail harness from the gauge going into the dash. I always find that down the road if things need to get removed or fixed, its far easier to just unplug them than have to chase wires or cut things out only to re-do them on reinstall.

This is the other end. comes out near the interior fuse panel. Easy convenient access. I color coded things because i hate wiring and it helps make stuff easier. Red is gauge power, black ground, white is illumination power, and green is gauge signal.

Used fuses 9 and 11.

Crammed in wiring. the spade terminals are too long, might trim them down or solder the pigtail directly to the gauge leads. Not sure yet.

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Tue May 28, 2019 9:31 am

Also ordered some color match spray paint for the Expedition center console. Looks like a pretty decent match.

Bajaluv · Post by **Bajaluv** » Tue May 28, 2019 8:01 pm

Looks good !! Where are you pulling trans temp from ?

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Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Wed May 29, 2019 12:30 pm

Bajaluv wrote:Looks good !! Where are you pulling trans temp from ?

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Currently from a bung in the pan, but it's barely reading over 110-120 even after a long drive, so i may move it to the pressure test port on the side of the trans case.

mobil1syn · Post by **mobil1syn** » Thu May 30, 2019 9:32 am

the pan is the best place because that is where the trans is pulling fluid from. hit a few spots in the circuit with a infrared gun to see what the system looks like, you may be getting an accurate reading.

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Thu May 30, 2019 12:15 pm

mobil1syn wrote:the pan is the best place because that is where the trans is pulling fluid from. hit a few spots in the circuit with a infrared gun to see what the system looks like, you may be getting an accurate reading.

That logic makes sense, but on the flip side, don't i want to know the temp of the fluid coming out too, so i know how warm it's getting?

mobil1syn · Post by **mobil1syn** » Thu May 30, 2019 2:12 pm

Becks_Bronco wrote:That logic makes sense, but on the flip side, don't i want to know the temp of the fluid coming out too, so i know how warm it's getting?

the trans is going to generate heat, your ability to remove that heat is what will ultimately drive the temp. if you cooling loop can dump 200* then the trans could be generating 199* and the feed would still be happy. if the trans is generating 300* you see an increase of 100* on the pan temp. if you really wanted to get fancy you could run a temp on the inlet and outlet on the cooler.

dont 100% know how the flow works, but if that was the case then you would want to pull a temp on the discharge of the case to the cooler because the inspection port may be mid flow not end flow. i would check with your trans guy and see where he wants the temp pulled and what he considers too high.

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Thu May 30, 2019 3:04 pm

mobil1syn wrote:
Becks_Bronco wrote:That logic makes sense, but on the flip side, don't i want to know the temp of the fluid coming out too, so i know how warm it's getting?
the trans is going to generate heat, your ability to remove that heat is what will ultimately drive the temp. if you cooling loop can dump 200* then the trans could be generating 199* and the feed would still be happy. if the trans is generating 300* you see an increase of 100* on the pan temp. if you really wanted to get fancy you could run a temp on the inlet and outlet on the cooler.

dont 100% know how the flow works, but if that was the case then you would want to pull a temp on the discharge of the case to the cooler because the inspection port may be mid flow not end flow. i would check with your trans guy and see where he wants the temp pulled and what he considers too high.

That makes sense. I notice it does climb slightly if it's sitting parked, which means the returning fluid is not being cooled as efficiently.

I don't have a "trans guy", just a currently healthy E40D i'd like to keep that way. I'll just leave it where it is for now. I guess Moroso might know a thing or two about what they're doing, and if they think a sensor near the drain plug is appropriate, then maybe there's some merit to it.

mobil1syn · Post by **mobil1syn** » Thu May 30, 2019 4:42 pm

Becks_Bronco wrote:That makes sense. I notice it does climb slightly if it's sitting parked, which means the returning fluid is not being cooled as efficiently.

I don't have a "trans guy", just a currently healthy E40D i'd like to keep that way. I'll just leave it where it is for now. I guess Moroso might know a thing or two about what they're doing, and if they think a sensor near the drain plug is appropriate, then maybe there's some merit to it.

give it a month when the ambient temp is 90+ you will know real quick if your cooling loop is up to the task. hit the lines with a heat gun and you can get an idea on how much heat you can get rid of, then based on pan temp you will have an idea on how much heat is being generated.

most of the trans guys i have deal with (mostly GM) all say in the pan and it should in the 180-220 range sustain, more then that and you start getting into issues with fluid breakdown.

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Fri May 31, 2019 9:51 am

mobil1syn wrote:
Becks_Bronco wrote:That makes sense. I notice it does climb slightly if it's sitting parked, which means the returning fluid is not being cooled as efficiently.

I don't have a "trans guy", just a currently healthy E40D i'd like to keep that way. I'll just leave it where it is for now. I guess Moroso might know a thing or two about what they're doing, and if they think a sensor near the drain plug is appropriate, then maybe there's some merit to it.
give it a month when the ambient temp is 90+ you will know real quick if your cooling loop is up to the task. hit the lines with a heat gun and you can get an idea on how much heat you can get rid of, then based on pan temp you will have an idea on how much heat is being generated.

most of the trans guys i have deal with (mostly GM) all say in the pan and it should in the 180-220 range sustain, more then that and you start getting into issues with fluid breakdown.

Ok awesome info, thanks man! I will happily leave it where it is. Less mess lol

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:03 pm

Took the Bronco up to Big Bear this weekend. Discovered that spending the day on street pressure 31's and whatever awful shocks are on it was a bad idea. I need to order the stage 1.5 kit from Desolate asap. My steering is pretty bad, and although it could simply just be bad caster angles, I'm going to opt for the RedHead steering box and Borgeson steering shaft to eliminate those possibilities. I think 33's and some Bilstein 5100's should cure a lot of the drivability issues.

The Punisher valve body was REALLY nice on the drive up. Downshifts easily, and upshifts are a firm blip, but nothing harsh ever.

mobil1syn · Post by **mobil1syn** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:59 am

what did the trans temps look like for the trip?

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:46 am

mobil1syn wrote:what did the trans temps look like for the trip?

It hovers between 110-130 on the highway or in traffic. I've seen it hit 140 after a long grade (unloaded) or REALLY heavy stop and go traffic.

Putzing around at low speed in the dirt, the highest i saw was 180. However, my sensor is in the bottom of the big pan, so i don't know what that means realistically as far as how hot my trans is really getting. Seems like my cooling system is more or less up to par for the most part. My engine coolant actually climbed from about 25% on the gauge to close to 50%. It normally reads about 15-20. These ford factory gauges on the dash are pretty worthless.

ChaseTruck754 · Post by **ChaseTruck754** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:24 am

Becks_Bronco wrote:These ford factory gauges on the dash are pretty worthless.

YUP!!

Becks_Bronco · Post by **Becks_Bronco** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:28 pm

Interior is half out. Need to work on removing the shell trim and rear side panels. The carpet in these trucks has a LOT of padding and different materials under it. Now it's time to clean and de-grossify the floor boards and start laying down butyl sheets and ccf.

What is considered the best brand of aftermarket carpet? I don't think mine is salvageable.

biggiek · Post by **biggiek** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:36 pm

Ryan in his 96 build ststrd where he got some. Believe rockauto had the exact same brand etc

Post by **SteveG** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:48 pm

This is so much work but so worth it! It really will make it feel like a new truck.

RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:09 am

I'm almost certain there is only 1 manufacturer and several retailers of that 1 product.

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mustacheride · Post by **mustacheride** » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:25 am

You'd be surprised what some degreaser, a pressure washer and some elbow grease will do to that carpet. The aftermarket ones require some trimming to get them just right.

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