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Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:15 am
by Dezertbronco
I need to change the Pan Gasket and Filter on my trans, I can buy the B&M shift improver kit for the same price as the Filter and Gasket, I would like to firm up the shift but dont need anything crazy. I had a transgo kit in my 95 lightning and it was great.


Anyone have any input...

mind you I put 1200 miles a year on this vehicle.

Powerplant is stock.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:03 am
by hobbyturnedobsession
Spend the 180 bucks and get a punisher valve body if you have the e4od. The ball and spring "improver" kit really isn't that great. The valve body works WAY better.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:16 am
by SteveG
Tell us which transmission you have so we can make a recommendation.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:08 pm
by Dezertbronco
Its an E40D

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:23 pm
by yikes
I liked the Transgo as well Matt. It felt better than my $3500 Mogi trans. Haha!

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:05 pm
by RyanDS650X
X2 on the Punisher Valve Body. I have one and love it, install is a simple bolt in job.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:33 am
by tcm glx
RyanDS650X wrote:X2 on the Punisher Valve Body. I have one and love it, install is a simple bolt in job.

Did you do the install Ryan? I have one sitting here in the garage, just need to make time to throw her in.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:04 pm
by RyanDS650X
I sure did, its easy. Just drop the pan and youll be staring right at the VB there are a few 10mm bolts and a maybe 8 or 10 screws to take out and she comes right off, install in reverse order. Be prepared for another gush of ATF when the VB is ready to come off.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:43 pm
by Agui-E7TE
Any suggestions for those of us who run the C6?

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:50 am
by AussieRod
Augi, I've had good success with the B&M Improver kit, bit I now intsall Transgo kits and love them. Simple, great intsructions and most of the time their kit addresses the transmissions inherent faults. Never even had any probs with Transgo. :mrgreen:

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:01 pm
by Drilim
Another vote for Punisher.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:32 am
by 78Class3
Ya, i'd like to hear any options for the c-6 as well if anyone has done it. I've gotta replace the gasket and maybe a new pan, if its that easy of an install I'd like to do it while i'm down there.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:02 am
by MOSS2
C-6 Reverse manual valve body and R code servo kit for starters. Not worth trying to make auto shift valve body work for racing I think.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:18 am
by 78Class3
Moss- Can I drop that servo and the valve body in without pulling the tranny? Thanks

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:42 am
by MOSS2
Yes should be able to install both in the car. Straightaxle might chime in as he knows them in much more detail. You probably will want to check the pressures after install. I recall we had to do some spring swapping or shimming to get the correct pressures. Some kits dont have engine braking in first (born from drag car accidents) so make sure you get which one you want. Shift pattern goes from RN321 to RN123.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:21 pm
by SteveG
Does anyone do a manual valve body for the E4OD?

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:27 pm
by 78Class3
I checked on Summit's web site and it doesn't look like it, just c-4 c-6 and AOD

http://www.summitracing.com/search/Make ... valve+body

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:21 am
by 300
78Class3 wrote:Moss- Can I drop that servo and the valve body in without pulling the tranny? Thanks
C6 valve body and servo can be done without pulling the trans. Some of the servo kits require tapping and plugging a hole in the case, which means you have to be very careful cleaning out the chips. The TCI manual valve body will free wheel in first. Had another VB of unknown origin that had the circuit for engine braking in first, but it did some weird stuff when we tried it, so we pulled it back out and put the TCI version back in. Just learned to drive it like it was. Use low range and second gear for going down the back side of the Summit. Line pressure should be around 195 psi with the manual vb.

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:33 am
by 300
SteveG wrote:Does anyone do a manual valve body for the E4OD?
I am sure it has been done somewhere! It would require a completely different valve body that would have to be custom machined, but somebody has probably done it. Rotating components are shared with the C6, but the valve body and mounting is totally different. Don't they make a "box" that would operate the trans manually via the solenoids? Even the Ashley/Smith truck used an electrically operated trans when they were doing development work for this trans in the Duralast single seat truck. It had a paddle shifter on the steering wheel and it was set up to use the OD in every other gear so it turned it into a 6 speed. Drivers were instructed to drive it until they broke it.........

Yesterday watched two technicians working on a CAT forklift, with the laptop plugged in trying (unsuccessfully) to figure out the electrical controls in the field. Can't imagine being afraid of an electronic trans!

Re: Shift Improver kits

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:35 am
by poolman
We been working on a C-6 with this set up and won't down shift to 2nd any ideas? pm