The TTB Flareside

[BajaDale]

Always beef up your left beam mount... I didn't:


Installing a Saginaw box and pump!!


And installing this:


Along with these!!!:

[hobbyturnedobsession]

Awesome! Great set of wheels and tires.

[BajaDale]

Thanks! I got the Walkers cheap and have always liked the look of them.

My cross member cracked around my drivers side beam mount, just a warning to watch for this on trucks that are abused like mine!!

[ChaseTruck754]

Installing a Saginaw box and pump!!

What is that box out of?

[BajaDale]

You can get those boxes out of early 80's Econoline Vans, they steer the same way as the stock f-150 box and the pitman arm works awesome with cut and turned beams. One of the bolt holes from the stock box lines up and the rest you have to drill. The vans also use a Saginaw pump and the later fuel injected Econolines use a Saginaw pump with the factory aluminum bracket and serpentine belt system!! Works awesome!!

[philofab]

What is the advantage? Faster steering rate? Larger sector shaft?

[BajaDale]

Stronger and no whine!! You can run a bigger tire and steer without any effort. They're just an all around better system under extreme conditions.

[ChaseTruck754]

You can get those boxes out of early 80's Econoline Vans, they steer the same way as the stock f-150 box and the pitman arm works awesome with cut and turned beams. One of the bolt holes from the stock box lines up and the rest you have to drill. The vans also use a Saginaw pump and the later fuel injected Econolines use a Saginaw pump with the factory aluminum bracket and serpentine belt system!! Works awesome!!

Thanks. While I don't have a F-150/bronco with the same frame as you guys I will be converting my '74 F-100 to front steer and using a setup like this. I had originally planned to use one of the Bronco steering boxes I have sitting here, but after recently hearing of issues with them I've gone back to thinking Saginaw box. This Econoline one looks like what I am looking for.

I will be looking for one of those saginaw PS pumps/brackets for my 351w though.

[hobbyturnedobsession]

Hey Steve, how many of them do you have? Would you like to sell me one? Mine's leaking really bad...

[ChaseTruck754]

Had 3. Sold 1 to Kritter (shockseals.com) so got 2 sitting here still. I was going to keep them and run one in the truck and one as a spare, but I keep thinking if I'm going to be doing the work of custom mounting a box for front steer on this thing I'll just go with the larger sector shaft saginaw box to begin with...

I'm heading to my dad's in Temec tomorrow and can bring one down with me if you want. I'll give you the same deal as Kris = $50.

[hobbyturnedobsession]

I'll take it! What time?

[ChaseTruck754]

Taken to PM so as not to derail the original thread any further.

[hobbyturnedobsession]

When the crossmember cracked, were any of the bolts slightly loose? I've heard of them cracking if they are.

[BajaDale]

No none were loose, they had been converted from stock to 1/2" gr8 bolts and washers with steel locking nuts. I'm running uni-balls on the inners and hiems on the radius arms, not sure if having no give might have sped up the cracking?

[philofab]

No none were loose, they had been converted from stock to 1/2" gr8 bolts and washers with steel locking nuts. I'm running uni-balls on the inners and hiems on the radius arms, not sure if having no give might have sped up the cracking?

Bingo. I've been thinking about machining my misalign spacer out of Delrin because of this.

[SteveG]

No none were loose, they had been converted from stock to 1/2" gr8 bolts and washers with steel locking nuts. I'm running uni-balls on the inners and hiems on the radius arms, not sure if having no give might have sped up the cracking?

Bingo.

Agreed. It'll happen with rubber, too, but will take much longer.

[BajaDale]

Just means some more re-enforcement!! I'm building the new pivot bracket right now, it'll tie into the frame and cross member. I've also plated my cross member a bit. The new Autofab motor mounts will look nice in there!!

[philofab]

Bigger washers would be a good idea too.

[BajaDale]

Moving right along!!


New AutoFab motor mounts:


New and improved inner pivot bracket:


Next the trans install!!

[philofab]

Nice job on the bracket!