Non-ethical deal on Race-Dezert

Baja · Post by **Baja** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:22 pm

Well it finally happened. After many years of successfully purchasing stuff over the Internet, from people within the off road community, I finally got burnt. I did get my money back, but I am pretty pissed off and I want to out this guy to as many people as I can, so that no one else will fall into his deceitful dealings.

I made a deal with this guy for a complete rear-end, which was a full floater fabricated housing with 40 spline axles, disc brakes, a strange center section and it was 70" WMS to WMS. We made the deal on the 28th. I told him I won't be able to pick it up until the next weekend, so he asked for a deposit of $800. Needless to say, I was a little apprehensive to send somebody $800 that I've never met, nor knew of their reputation. After talking to the guy for a while, I felt comfortable and sent in the $800 via PayPal. He even edited his ad to state "deposit taken, sale pending".

Over the past couple of days I've had several text conversations with him regarding parts on the axle. He even texted me earlier today to say that he would give available on Sunday but not Saturday for the pick up.
At 3:30 today he texted me out of the blue stating:

"Hello, sorry but I have decided to keep the rearend for a new project that came up. I have returned your deposit in full. Sorry again and good luck!"

Total crap! Where I come from a deposit means you are willing to hold up to your end of the deal. I gave him $800. I think I showed my commitment to the deal. Totally pisses me off. I even already ordered some rotors for it. Now I am back to square one. To add to it, I beat on my 8.8 pretty good this weekend, because I knew I was getting a new bulletproof unit this week

Anyway, I just wanted everyone to know, because he has 14 other items for sale right now on race-dezert and I don't want anyone else to deal with this unethical POS Who has zero on honor.

Rant over

Quailhunter · Post by **Quailhunter** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:47 pm

Yep......that's bullshxt

Andy Jones · Post by **Andy Jones** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:14 pm

You didn't want that rear end anyways!.. And that dude is a POS..

Rmc · Post by **Rmc** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:15 pm

X2 What Andy said.

Baja · Post by **Baja** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:01 pm

Yeah, I'm over it. I was angry, but it's not my place to judge him for what he did. He has to live with it and I know that it wasn't meant to be. Now I just need to decide which rearend to build. Something economical, but good for the money.

RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:27 am

14bolt time!

Broncodawg · Post by **Broncodawg** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:00 am

I'll bet a buddy came to him wanting it last minute.

Baja · Post by **Baja** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:32 pm

RyanDS650X wrote:14bolt time!

I'd love to do one of those 9/14 hybrids. Can those be done cheaper than a comparable 9""? I have no idea what those 3rd members cost.

dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:13 pm

If you're talking about the super 14, the third member for those is a little over 1100 dollars if I remember correctly

dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:16 pm

I haven't priced 5 on 5.5 14 bolt hubs but I have priced out Dana 60 full float hubs. the cost was comparable to the Schriener full float kids that he offers if you already have a housing and third member.

there was a really good argument made by Chase truck that very few people can actually break a 35 spline semi-floating axle and carrier. if new axles were purchased every two years it would take you 10 years of new axles equal the cost of a full float conversion.

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:05 pm

From what I've heard is its not the axle that fails it is the bearings when I bought my rear I had it set up for equal axles so I can just carry a spare with bearing and seal ready to go, under $200, will get me home and I can replace the bearing and through the spare back into the truck for the next time. I figure $200 back up vs $2000+ upgrade.

dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:56 pm

X2 After I read ChaseTruck754's in Nighthawk's thread I decided to go that route.

Baja · Post by **Baja** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:40 am

cs_drums wrote:From what I've heard is its not the axle that fails it is the bearings when I bought my rear I had it set up for equal axles so I can just carry a spare with bearing and seal ready to go, under $200, will get me home and I can replace the bearing and through the spare back into the truck for the next time. I figure $200 back up vs $2000+ upgrade.

I hope this isn't a dumb question, but how do you make each shaft equal in length, if the pinion is offset?

Thanks to everyone for the great advice and feedback!

ChaseTruck754 · Post by **ChaseTruck754** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:45 am

Center section moves to make the axles equal length = pinion will not be dead center in the housing.

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:16 am

Like Steve said the pinion isn't centered I believe it 2.38" or 2.1" or something like that ofset. To me with the range of motion our pi ions see through the travel I wasn't to worried about it. Dirt tech is awesome in the fact that they have 2 different face plates to there rearebd one for equal axles one for center pinion. Either one still has the pumpkin centered in the housing so I if I go to link it in the future the upper link mounts are still centered on the pumpkin.... If any of that makes sense.

Baja · Post by **Baja** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:00 pm

cs_drums wrote:Like Steve said the pinion isn't centered I believe it 2.38" or 2.1" or something like that ofset. To me with the range of motion our pi ions see through the travel I wasn't to worried about it. Dirt tech is awesome in the fact that they have 2 different face plates to there rearebd one for equal axles one for center pinion. Either one still has the pumpkin centered in the housing so I if I go to link it in the future the upper link mounts are still centered on the pumpkin.... If any of that makes sense.

I figured that was how it's done, but wasn't sure it was okay to do, but like you said, what's a couple inches to the side when you're already putting through angle hell up and down. Makes sense to me.