Mark Keifer pedophile

[greaslife]

http://www.10news.com/news/daycare-owne ... child-porn

here is another link for you..... but im sure someone else was using his computer..... maybe one of his customers?????

U don't like it leave

[hobbyturnedobsession]

Please do me a favor. Go back to DR we are all grown up people here who dont need a protector.

[tvoymang]

I never said anything about deleting anything, i am not the OP... This isnt something i just found out today and ran with. I am not the type to want to throw someone up on the chopping block. As far as this whole thing and its relation to GFB... well that is still speculation IMO but there are a few people on here that i know for 100% fact that have known and could confirm this info yet still support and rep this dudes product.

[hobbyturnedobsession]

Soo that just made you feel that you could attempt to bring something out you still cant find all the info on? Honestly man that was something you may have wanted to set aside until you found out the whole truth about. Btw word of mouth is just as bas as the internet.

[greaslife]

So it's there choice to do so and I don't think it's your place or Anyone else's place too throw down on some one. Wether looking out for others or not.

[Dezertbronco]

I truly Hope that tvoymang and others are wrong about Mark, If he is right and Mark is guilty I would hope that the GFB Mods and owners do the right thing and Ban Him and any advertising that he does. Im sure the facts will surface and justice will provail, guilty or not guilty.

[philofab]

I'm aware of these news articles, however it does not make a person guilty.

This here is the reason threads may have been deleted.

1. It serves no purpose. It only creates a legal liability.
2. People become angry and aggressive toward each other.
3. This is potentially damaging to someones business. (Another liability)

I don't care what the newspapers say. This is a person in America that is innocent until proven guilty.

[greaslife]

If he was guilty it would have been blasted all over the desert community. O and he would be locked up.

Has any one seen mark?

[greaslife]

I'm done trying too help remove your head. Have fun looking like a Jack a$$

[cuz_im_CR]

http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/2 ... porn-case/

why doesnt kiefer come on here to defend himself?? it seems pretty simple. an innocent man would be doing all that it took to make sure people knew i was innocent...

the government doesnt just go out on a whim and say "hey this guy might be doing something bad, lets arrest him, make him wear a GPS locator, claim he had 300 images and 40 videos of CHILDREN, give out his user name on a forum and close down his parents daycare" just on a whim that he might be guilty.... its called evidence

get your mouths off and around his D*CK for a minute and think about what youre defending.... there is no doubt his DID do something sick otherwise there wouldnt be an investigation.

why doesnt mark come on here and defend himself? oh thats right he cant... the FBI wont let him use the internet... sounds like an innocent man to me...

[hobbyturnedobsession]

Alright now your making it personal. You need to quit boy. Go to a different site. Actually he was on here a few weeks ago. Nice research.

[greaslife]

Yah the government doesn't make mistakes. Fn funny

[robertcrav]

Oye ... What a joy to come home to after all day meetings ...

Some chronology as I know them for those that care....I was introduced to Mark after admiring his fab work on Tony and his Brothers trucks and Michaels...I went to his shop with a couple guys, hung out and got to know him a bit. I'm a tech/IT guy and inquired what was up with Marks site...seemed like it'd been down forever, and I thru out an offer to help build a FB page as those are pretty easy and I've helped some other friends with theirs as well.

The offer was accepted so I got busy researching and saving pics posted on other sites and on the web as well as from his photobucket account. While doing my research I came across an article that stopped me dead in my tracks. I was HORRIFIED by what I read. I did my best web detective work (see site title) and I started texting/calling others for verification. I was told the story as they knew it, as well as their personal accounts of talking to him, his wife and his Dad about the accusations. This led me to Talk to Mark directly so I could gauge his commentary and story for myself. I've also personally spoken to his wife and father.

I would absolutely NEVER support someone I believe was guilty or be seen with them in public or help with their FB page or associate in any way shape or form let alone bring my wife and child around them.

Mark has never shied away from a discussion with me when I had additional questions or wanted to know the status of his case.

[greaslife]

Sounds like a guy that's guilty too me.


Yah fn right..........

[cuz_im_CR]

Oye ... What a joy to come home to after all day meetings ...

Some chronology as I know them for those that care....I was introduced to Mark after admiring his fab work on Tony and his Brothers trucks and Michaels...I went to his shop with a couple guys, hung out and got to know him a bit. I'm a tech/IT guy and inquired what was up with Marks site...seemed like it'd been down forever, and I thru out an offer to help build a FB page as those are pretty easy and I've helped some other friends with theirs as well.

The offer was accepted so I got busy researching and saving pics posted on other sites and on the web as well as from his photobucket account. While doing my research I came across an article that stopped me dead in my tracks. I was HORRIFIED by what I read. I did my best web detective work (see site title) and I started texting/calling others for verification. I was told the story as they knew it, as well as their personal accounts of talking to him, his wife and his Dad about the accusations. This led me to Talk to Mark directly so I could gauge his commentary and story for myself. I've also personally spoken to his wife and father.

I would absolutely NEVER support someone I believe was guilty or be seen with them in public or help with their FB page or associate in any way shape or form let alone bring my wife and child around them.

Mark has never shied away from a discussion with me when I had additional questions or wanted to know the status of his case.

thats great, this doesnt explain anything other than the fact you are FRIENDS with him and he keeps you up to date on his case..... so then is there a federal investigation as to why he had child porn in his possession? if you feel he is innocent, please shed some light on how so... the charges are pretty hefty and the evidence they have against him seems strong.

please explain how he is innocent?

[hobbyturnedobsession]

For a boy that doesnt aay he has a personal vendetta sure talks differently.

[cuz_im_CR]

For a boy that doesnt aay he has a personal vendetta sure talks differently.

Remove the di*k from your hands and spell correctly.... I don't understand what you're saying

[philofab]

Resorting to threats and personal attacks shows weak debating skills. It defiantly does not help you prove your point. It also happens to be against the rules.

[Nick]

Watch the language! If you can't discuss this as an adult, then don't post. If this is going to turn into a member on member bashing, it will go poof!

For anyone that does not wish to be here, or does not wish to be associated with gfb, then by all means leave. No one is forcing you to be here.

[cuz_im_CR]

Resorting to threats and personal attacks shows weak debating skills. It defiantly does not help you prove your point. It also happens to be against the rules.

where is there a threat?

perhaps we are all getting off topic...

just want an explanation as to why people support this person. you all honestly think that the FBI is just wasting their time on this poor soul?

i dont mean to be mean to you HTO, it was more of a joke. please dont take it personal. i understand you are just misguided.