New Bronco from the factory??
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The concept is almost a decade old, I'll believe it when I see it!
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Re: New Bronco from the factory??
ThisTravisfab wrote:The concept is almost a decade old, I'll believe it when I see it!
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Too bad Ford didn't go with a Raptor based concept. A Braaaptor! Instead they are bringing back a bobtail retro thing to compete with Jeep. Hope it looks better in person than in the photos.Rmc wrote:Interesting. What would you guys prefere the body style modled after the 60/70 or the raptor style? Found this photo shop version a couple years ago. But either way it would be very cool if they re-released it.
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Looks like a new Moss Brothers Racing Bronco with the 5.0 Coyote engine.
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Good, because a solid axle will never work in the desert!flyinbronco wrote:Looks like a new Moss Brothers Racing Bronco with the 5.0 Coyote engine.
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True that!ESHALLBETTER wrote:Good, because a solid axle will never work in the desert!flyinbronco wrote:Looks like a new Moss Brothers Racing Bronco with the 5.0 Coyote engine.
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Its interesting that we all think full size and the market is proven to be downsize. Example Wrangler. Mostly D30 axles with one option for d44 axles and a wimpy 4.0 now 3.6 motor.
So That is why I think F series Bronco is DOA. A new Bronco could make money for Ford if it competed with Wrangler using - say an Escape drive train with an 1600/1800 Twin turbo motor.
Of course they ran that design concept up to management before and the answer was no way.
Hmmm, They could downsize Raptor and probably out sell what I describe above, but what would that do to real Raptor sales?
Making profit on a new model requires very large sales numbers and that means the vehicle has to have general population desire, not hard core desire. And once again the Wrangler profile. The huge sales of Wrangler is for people who want a cute daily driver. And the majority of them bitch about 15mpg and never use 4wd or even drive on dirt roads because the rig will not stay clean. (Good thing because most all Wranglers come with street tires). So there you go for a new Bronco image as seen by the money guys.
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So That is why I think F series Bronco is DOA. A new Bronco could make money for Ford if it competed with Wrangler using - say an Escape drive train with an 1600/1800 Twin turbo motor.
Of course they ran that design concept up to management before and the answer was no way.
Hmmm, They could downsize Raptor and probably out sell what I describe above, but what would that do to real Raptor sales?
Making profit on a new model requires very large sales numbers and that means the vehicle has to have general population desire, not hard core desire. And once again the Wrangler profile. The huge sales of Wrangler is for people who want a cute daily driver. And the majority of them bitch about 15mpg and never use 4wd or even drive on dirt roads because the rig will not stay clean. (Good thing because most all Wranglers come with street tires). So there you go for a new Bronco image as seen by the money guys.
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I don't want them to re-introduce the Bronco. There....I said it. It went out on top, and it will always be a legend. If you want a new bronco, buy a 96. If they bring it back now they will just screw up the name because they have to cater to what the general public wants, and the general public is a bunch of chi-latte sipping sissys!
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I'd like to see it come back but honestly you're probably right about it going out on top. I honestly doubt that it would have a removable top if they brought it back. The new rollover standards would make it hard for it to have a removable top. What would be cool would be a Bronco that's designed like an Early Bronco for the masses but wider than a Wrangler for more stability and give it a solid front Dana 44 axle or even better, the return of the TTB.ESHALLBETTER wrote:I don't want them to re-introduce the Bronco. There....I said it. It went out on top, and it will always be a legend. If you want a new bronco, buy a 96. If they bring it back now they will just screw up the name because they have to cater to what the general public wants, and the general public is a bunch of chi-latte sipping sissys!
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That's right!!!ESHALLBETTER wrote:....and the general public is a bunch of chi-latte sipping sissys!
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Amen Eric! Preach on brother!
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The bronco was a no show in Detroit. It's better this way.
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All this with one minor changeESHALLBETTER wrote:I don't want them to re-introduce the Bronco. There....I said it. It went out on top, and it will always be a legend. If you want a new bronco, buy a 79. If they bring it back now they will just screw up the name because they have to cater to what the general public wants, and the general public is a bunch of chi-latte sipping sissys!
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Just got back from the Bronco Super Celebration West in Buena Vista CO. Yes, another award for my EB.
Lots of Broncos. Mostly EBs but plenty of full size like the ones favored by most on this forum.
Two 21 Broncos on display, a Sport (SUV) and a Badlands manual with the ecoboost 4 cyl.
Anyway, they are selling a Go Fast version called Wildtrak and a rock crawling one called Badlands. Get your reservation to buy one that will not need fabrication or modifications we are used to. 2 doors and 4 doors both have the same specs we are all interested in.
Who has one reserved like Chris and Paul?
Unsure check the web for the images and the details
Here are a couple of starter links
https://community.thebronconation.com/2 ... ad-lovell/
https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/da ... rstedition
Lots of Broncos. Mostly EBs but plenty of full size like the ones favored by most on this forum.
Two 21 Broncos on display, a Sport (SUV) and a Badlands manual with the ecoboost 4 cyl.
Anyway, they are selling a Go Fast version called Wildtrak and a rock crawling one called Badlands. Get your reservation to buy one that will not need fabrication or modifications we are used to. 2 doors and 4 doors both have the same specs we are all interested in.
Who has one reserved like Chris and Paul?
Unsure check the web for the images and the details
Here are a couple of starter links
https://community.thebronconation.com/2 ... ad-lovell/
https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/da ... rstedition
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I will probably buy one, but not the first year.
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Yes it is a serious consideration that first year is not good. However The truck will come with a proven drive train and one of the most reliable with the 2.7/10 speed. But there are other issues to consider, like the electronics and other unique specific Bronco items.
So wait may be a good plan. However when I made my reservation I was the last of 10,463,226 reservations. That means even with a huge number of cancellations I will probably get a rig a year from now, or later, and it may even be called a 21, but in reality it will be near the beginning or middle of the second year of production.
Conclusion order now and wait.
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My reasoning is that like the Raptor when it first came out they will be scarce on the lots and bring above sticker prices. I want to be able to order one with the options I want, not some package deal. I pretty much hate al the rims that they come with. Also do not want all the fancy electronic driving aid BS that comes with the packages.
I want
2 door
2.3/stick
low gears and lockers with steelie wheels to drive it off the lot and get real tires.
heated seats.
Everything else can pound sand.
I want
2 door
2.3/stick
low gears and lockers with steelie wheels to drive it off the lot and get real tires.
heated seats.
Everything else can pound sand.
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I cannot tell how to get about heated seats, but I think they are universally available.
Order Sasquatch with the required suspension for tall tires/gears. Sell the beadlock ready rims and 35" tires probably make a profit.
You will still get many things you may not want because ford has to sell to the general users.
BTW, there is a list available for dealers the guarantee no markup above list and also some that offer X plan for a discount. Then there is a list of dealers with no negotiation policy that is always a price below list price.
Order Sasquatch with the required suspension for tall tires/gears. Sell the beadlock ready rims and 35" tires probably make a profit.
You will still get many things you may not want because ford has to sell to the general users.
BTW, there is a list available for dealers the guarantee no markup above list and also some that offer X plan for a discount. Then there is a list of dealers with no negotiation policy that is always a price below list price.