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Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:55 pm
by cs_drums
Is a intercooler mandatory at 7psi. My blower set up is 6psi not intercooled. I’m gonna add one and bump up PSI


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Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:45 pm
by powa_ranga
Intercoolers are not mandatory but they make a world of difference in multiple ways including the obvious advantage of a cooler/denser air charge, better power, and better driveability... just know that the cooler=equals better on your charge side and accept it lol...a lot of high hp drag cars will actually spray methanol as well as run on alcohol to cool the air charge, but that is a whole different world all together that I could literally spend all day talking about.

I got a lot of flack for putting my intercooler in the back on my ranger because it wasn't in direct airflow but between the increased surface area and the draft off the cab I feel I had sufficient enough heat transfer to justify having it back there....it made a noticeable temp difference that you could actually feel by touch and it also made a drastic night/day difference in power you could feel from the drivers seat.

So too sum up...yes intercooler good, heat bad.

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:09 am
by AussieRod
Actually, the correct terminology is CHARGE AIR COOLER, or AFTERCOOLER, not intercooler. Inter-coolers are mounted BEFORE or IN BETWEEN supercharger stages to cool the ingested or first stage pressurised air charge. AFTER-coolers, or charge air coolers are mounted between the supercharger outlet and the engine intake to reduce the compressed air charge temperature prior to entering the intake manifold. (Supercharger being positive displacement or turbocharger).

There is some confusion in terminology between aftercooler, intercooler, and charge-air cooler. In the past, aircraft engines would run turbochargers in stages, where the first stage compressor would feed the inlet of the second stage compressor that would further compress the air before it enters the engine. Due to the extremely high pressures that would develop, an air cooler was positioned between the first and second stage compressors. That cooler was the "Intercooler". Another cooler would be positioned after the second stage, which was the final compressor stage, and that was the "aftercooler". An aftercooler was the cooler whose outlet fed the engine.(Wikipedia).
Sorry, just my $0.02.

Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:55 am
by damon1272
So your saying the technical term for it is - dinglehopper. Got it. :)

Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:48 am
by powa_ranga
More pieces to the puzzle coming together, not sure if I'll bolt these GT40's on this engine or not but its good to have them...finally home for 3 days after 3 weeks away so hopefully I can get something done in this pile, shipping off to Texas for work on Monday lol.Image

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Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:10 pm
by powa_ranga
Not sure if this is considered progress or notImageImage

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:17 am
by funinthesun95
oh boy....

Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:25 pm
by powa_ranga
funinthesun95 wrote:oh boy....
Let me know when you wanna buy it back lol

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:27 am
by Wrightracing.net
powa_ranga wrote:Not sure if this is considered progress or notImageImage

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Is that a Turbo going in there? ImageImage

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:05 am
by powa_ranga
Wrightracing.net wrote:
powa_ranga wrote:Not sure if this is considered progress or notImageImage

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Is that a Turbo going in there? ImageImage

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Yep

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:38 pm
by funinthesun95
powa_ranga wrote:
funinthesun95 wrote:oh boy....
Let me know when you wanna buy it back lol

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nice

Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:05 pm
by powa_ranga
Checking clearances for the turbo piping and building the hotside...39's take up a lot of real estateImageImage

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:54 pm
by Needles929
Woooow!

Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:24 pm
by powa_ranga
Hotside completely tacked up and ready to weld, need to rig up some sort of mount solution to take the weight of the turbo off the pipes but it's in its home, I can still swing it 3-4 inches either way if I need to since it has v band clamps...starting on intercooler and piping next. ImageImageImageImage

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:42 am
by funinthesun95
will the mount come off the Cross bar to support turbo?

Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:05 pm
by cs_drums
If you mount to cage I’d think you need to do rubber bushing, right? Cause even with poly mounts the motor will probably move some in relation to frame/cage


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Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:13 pm
by powa_ranga
Not sure how I am going to mount it, was thinking of building simple brackets off the header bolts or intake manifold bolts, that way everything stays engine mounted and moves together...I'll have to look at it closer when I get time, if I mount it off the cage then yes, it will have to rubber mounted..the merge collector and up pipes will be rubber mounted to the frame.

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:12 pm
by VintageIronFab
What about some thick aluminum that uses the 4 carb bolts- obviously with a hole in the middle - carb spacer / turbo mount??

Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:33 pm
by powa_ranga
Interesting idea but I would be concerned with it having too much leverage hanging off the side and either warping the carb flange or creating a vacuum leak.

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Re: Slappy Style Go Fast with Dana 44/50 hybrid beams....

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:54 pm
by funinthesun95
cs_drums wrote:If you mount to cage I’d think you need to do rubber bushing, right? Cause even with poly mounts the motor will probably move some in relation to frame/cage


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cross tube bushing same as motor

but, yes no matter how much you tie things in you will have some movement or vibration.....always ( like you are saying Brian)