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I was looking at a 86 f250 rolling chassis with 4x4 and a 460. It's a long bed reg. cab. I would then do the FITCH throttle body injection, self tuning, setup.
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FI-Tech, is what I ment.

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So this has been dead too long & I've been lazy about updates. Seeing Rod over there plinking away at his & posting the updates made me think I should get off my arse & do the same. Time to do some catch up I guess.

So I did this in December 2015 (hard to believe my last update was before that!)
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After that I ordered some fuel line & lightly started playing with fuel line stuff around January 2016 but I didn't get far
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I hadn't touched the truck since that last post/January 2016 stuff really until January of this year. So that's another year gone of this beast just sitting. We had a son in the mean time, (8 months old now), my daughter just turned 3 and I'm now at the stage in life I never used to understand = when my "truck buddies" were too busy to have time to work on their projects. Kids are a blast & I love my family, and as much as I WANT to work on this thing, it's just hard finding the time.

I sneak out in the garage when I can after my wife falls asleep on the couch at night. This usually gives me from about 10 PM until I'm too tired (sometimes 1 AM, most of the time 11 or so) to get whatever I can figure out QUIETLY. I typically get stuck needing to cut, sand or drill something & I can't without waking up the wife or kids, so it gets put on hold until I can find time on a lunch break to try & rush through some noisy stuff.

This thing is inching forward though. Well, I take that back... Maybe not inching, more like millimetering forward, but hey, I'll take what I can.

Been playing a bit in cad, making small time parts/fittings orders & doing a lot of thinking.



Here's what I've been working on since I got snowed in while on vacation in January & had a lot of time to read & figure out what I wanted to do next & what to order.

1st up I resurrected my dash panel/gauge cluster design. I had a bunch of free time while stuck in the house in Oregon with everybody too sick to leave the house & so much snow outside it was hard to do anything. A couple late nights there & I know where I wanted to go with things when i got back here.
I had a surround layout I had started YEARS ago and I dove back in to that after looking at google images again for an hour or more & checking setups from here and the aluminum insert a guy is now selling on eBay, etc. I was tempted by the eBay one as it looks like a nice piece for the price, but I have 2-5/8" and 5" gauges & it was set up for 2-1/16" & 3-3/8" ones. Oh well, would it really be my truck if it wasn't full custom??
Here's where I was cad wise:
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That lead to more cad. Cardboard Aided Design this time though
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I just happened to have a spare dash here - which makes life a little easier for mock up purposes. I just had to crawl up in the rafters to get it & wipe an inch of dust off it...


A little more cad and then more cad
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It was at this point I was realizing I am kind of an idiot for being cheap as I'm a bit OCD and my "cheapness" on parts would bug me & show...
I have a lot of gauges for this thing that I have been collecting for a while. All gauges but my pyro & boost that I put in a little on dash mount that I made when I was driving the donor are autometer pro-comps. Mostly liquid filled ones because they look race-y and "cool", and because the cummins will rattle this thing I'm sure so the the liquid will help that. Well, at least I convinced myself of that.
My pyro & boost are z series = black bezel (they were cheaper = this is where the cheapness bit me!) where as my pro-comps are silver bezel.
The tricky part & where my OCD kicked in is when I was trying to figure out a tach. I want things to match and of course all the pro-comp tachs were 9k rpm min. I don't need that on a diesel! They make the z series tachs all the way down to 4k, but that one is 2-1/16" and the black bezel & it won't mach...
So that's when the crazyness & figuring out layouts came in.
I decided I wanted to look at different layouts & I wanted to really SEE what these layouts or gauge configurations would look like, because I certainly didn't want to spend the $ on the gauges & time on the fab & come up with something I didn't like. I got the pics of the actual gauges from autometers website & sized them & dropped them in!

Here's another screen shot with all the gauge layouts I tried. You can't see the gauge images because they are so small, but I have 22 different configurations here with different sizes & bezel colors etc.
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As I said I have a 5" speedo here that I had planned to use on the truck but I also started looking at the 3-3/8" stuff so as to try & match a tach.


More fun with cardboard starting
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Keep in mind these pics represent hours of wasted time on cad & span 2 months or more in time. I work sloooow now!

I got to the point where I was trying to decide if I wanted to drop the cash on a new speedo or not, so I printed out the option I liked with the 5" speedo & threw it in the truck. I have seen these speedos in lots of race trucks & they never looked out of scale. Those are custom fabricated aluminum dashes though. I figured it would look fine in the truck right??? Hmmm
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Ok, so maybe putting my ACTUAL speedo in it would help clarify
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Yup, that decided it. Looks too big/out of scale (thanks Steve - if you are reading this!). Picture above doesn't do it justice as to how big/out of place this thing looks. The fact that the 5" speedo & 3-3/8" tach layout wouldn't allow fo things to be centered on the steering wheel didn't help the cause at all either.

So yeah, that's about where I left off. I have decided I'll go to a 3-3/8" speedo. I also decided to go to a 3-3/8" tach (the one gauge I had left to buy) for symmetry. While autometer does make a couple 5k tachs and 1 option in 4k they are all too small for what I think a tach should be at 2-1/16". They make 6k in 3-3/8" though so that is what I am going with. Now I just need to decide if I want a silver bezel to match the oil press, water temp, etc. or a black bezel to match the boost & pyro & the newly added fuel pressure gauge my brother got me for my birthday this year - which is also a z series (black bezel).

I keep going back & forth. I'm indecisive if you can't tell!!!

Thought was all silver bezel in the dash & then the 3 black bezel ones in a pillar pod. I then kind of liked the idea of leaving the 2 I already have in my dash pod I made & putting 1 black bezel centered above the tach & speedo in the dash (like is shown 2 pics up). In a perfect world this would be my pyro gauge, but I'm nervous about how that will work with pulling the dash panel if I have to as the thermocouple doesn't detach from the gauge so I'd have to pull the thermocouple from the exhaust manifold to pull the gauge pod fully.

The more I talk about this the more I think. No decision has been made, but I have the eBay auctions for both the black bezel stuff AND the silver bezel stuff open on my computer for when I decide to be spontaneous & pull the trigger.
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oh boy he back....
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The cluster in my 73 or 74 F100 (I forget what year it is)

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And also... my newest 1974 F350:

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Looks rad steve. That hauler getting a cummins swap in the future?
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Thanks guys. I'm not back, I never left here... Just hadn't touched truck much & was even lazier on posting the updates - haha. There's more coming for sure as I've kind of ramped up on working on it again & I'm not even finished posting the back logged updates of what I did since the above in Jan-Feb.

I just don't get as much time for these long winded posts anymore, but I'll get updated at some point though & then try & be better about actually posting my progress.

Nice F-350 Philo. Car haulers are so cool! And that dash looks like what I have seen a lot of guys do. I want to look a little more "race" though & will do a fabricated aluminum insert. Current struggle is if I put the stereo above the climate control vs. below so IF I get a flip out screen stereo dealy it won't block the climate control. We'll see. Current stereo idea is old school tape deck and not sure if I'll go to flip up screen instead or not.
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here's another small update showing stuff I've been working on since January. This time it's headlight mounts. This is something that would have been done in one night in the shop in the old days. Currently I've been messing with it on & off for over 2 months. The couch seems to have suction cupped itself to my rear lately so I haven't gone into the garage to just focus & get this done like I should have.


Way back Tony suggested these headlight housings so I grabbed a set. They are off a euro jetta if I remember right. They are for an h4 bulb, a 7" glass lens with a good reflector & have the adjustability like stock ones built into the mounting plate. My thought was always that I would do a few tabs off of the core support to hold them, but when I started messing with it I realized that may be a bit tough. I also realized that my silly, fancy-pantsy custom core support had a plate running RIGHT behind there the bulb access would be for the headlight. This can be seen below & was no good. I walked away from my 1st test fit a little frustrated.
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I got the chance about a week later to stand there for 15-20 min looking at this & figured out a plan. I came away from this much happier knowing I had figured out something that could work. I need to move the lights as far forward as possible in the grill (to a point - without looking goofy) to create access to the back of the light for bulb changes/access. I may also cut a hole in the middle of the offending area of the core support plate & dimple die it to use that to run the wiring through. Will have to see what I need to do when I get back to this.
I then realized that these headlight buckets may be easier to just mount to the grill shell/inserts. The stock tabs on the grill shell were fairly close to the mounting holes for these headlight buckets. I thought for a second that the grill shell may be too light to mount these things off of, but after looking at it a little more the whole assembly gets pretty rigid when everything is bolted up & I think these will be fine.

I pulled the grill & took it in the garage to mess with fitment.

Both the grill shells and the headlight buckets would need a little trimming to work, but it didn't look that bad.

Trimmed a tab off the bottom here
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Took a little bit off the top too (light on left cut - light on right = stock)
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And after a little clean up on the rough edges of the cuts it was test fit time & it was close
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Funny side note here. 1 of the headlight buckets had big, lower tabs on it (see second pic above) & one did not. I thought that was kind of odd, but figured driver vs. pass. side may be different on the jetta or whatever these are for. I didn't mind as it saved me some cutting. Well... today I was looking back through old pics for my previous fuel line routing setup (more on why later) and I came across pics from June 2011 in which it seems I had cut the tabs off one of the headlights already. I have ZERO recollection of doing this, & my cleanup job on the cuts must have been pretty dang good because I could not tell that I had cut one! That's what I get for bouncing around from project to project on this thing & taking forever to do anything.


Back on topic... After a little measuring I made cardboard testers of the tabs and did a test fit. They seemed to work.
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Since then I have made the tabs out of 316 stainless, and last week I trimmed the grill shell & 2nd headlight bucket. I mounted the 1st headlight and used the cardboard templates to verify the same size tabs will work for both sides. I assumed they would, but whenever I assume without verifying I am proved wrong, and it's quicker to check than to make another set of stainless tabs all over again.

So I test fit the headlights & made another set of the mounting brackets out of stainless. Now I just need hardware (going stainless on that as well so need to pick a few bolts up) & I can get those mounted & done. They've been sitting there a week or 2 already. One day I'll get to the hardware store.
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Next, here's another delayed post of what I've been messing with since January 2017...
About a year ago (probably more) I had ordered a bunch of stuff & looked at doing the fuel lines. I didn't make it super far before house projects pulled me off the crew. Well, a week or 2 ago now I made the final 2 bends in my hard line for the return line so that is done! Finally!!

I then got back to mocking up a bracket to hang an auxiliary fuel filter. I had purchased a base & filter a while back & was messing with this last January as well. Here we are again a year or more later & I'm finally back at it. I picked up the 1st half of the assembly discussed here:
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Well, most of the 1st half... I didn't get the parts for the air bleed off/return one he did.
I was just going to use the filter & dip tube really, for extra filtration & to help combat the possibility of sucking air vs. fuel if my tank got WAY low & I was on a BIG hill. A long shot for sure, but still in the realm of possibility.
Anyway, I had left off figuring out the last couple bend angles needed to make a bracket for the filter mount. This filter is TALL, so there wasn't a great place for it. I am trying to tuck it way up close to the bed to get it up as high as possible.
I fought the floppy cardboard bracket enough to figure out angles & that it seemed I could still move this thing up a half inch or so more. Notice the clamps - I used small pieces of aluminum that I bent & clamped to the cardboard template to figure out the bend angles & try & keep this thing rigid. It kind of worked, but I want a real look at what this thing will be like so I decided to make a mock up bracket out of thin aluminum before spending time on the real bracket which will be stainless.

Cardboard tester pics. You can see the weight of the filter folded this thing over a bit while I took the pics
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You can also see just how dang low this filter hangs. The filter is 9.5" tall! I placed this where the filter isn't any lower than the leaf hanger, but I'm still worried about the filter getting tagged off road - so I started looking at other filters. That research led me to find some opinions on filter microns, etc. This filter is 2 micron, which sounds great, but will clog a bit faster & may lead to fuel starvation. With the stock filter (which I am keeping) at 14 micron I was trying to find a 7.5" or so tall filter at 10-20 microns. Closest I have come so far is a 7" filter at 6 microns. I think that is what I will end up running. I haven't made the dip tube portion of this yet, so I will just adjust the dip tube (copper pipe) length for the final filter length. This big, 2 micron filter will be used for the 1st tank of fuel or so, so as to catch anything left in the tank from fabrication & then I'll go to the shorter, 6 micron filter I found when I actually start using the truck regularly (in the year 2050 - lol...)

Now fast forward to this week/currently & I have a tester bracket cut, which I then test fit & am now onto the final bracket.


Aside from the filter addition I am also re-thinking my fuel line run to the lift pump.
Years ago I removed the fuel heater & added a -8 AN fitting to the strainer inlet with a 1/2 rubber line coming from the frame to it. I had a 90* -8 AN fitting at the frame that was a short/sharp/hard 90 and that was going to go to 1/2" stainless hard line back to the tank. Well I last year decided to dump the 1/2" stainless & go to a 1/2" twistlock hose.
Now in my recent snow-in in January & the reading & conversations with a fellow old ford & cummins guy I have decided to redo a bit of what I already had done. I will now be ditching the stock strainer as well as the heater & I have picked up a -8 AN fitting for the lift pump. My 1/2" twistlock line will run straight there & I have a nice, smooth/swooping 90* fitting to get there. This is actually the fitting that went to the top of the fuel heater before, from the short run of soft hose I had, so at least that complete setup wasn't a waste...

Here's a couple pictures of the previous setup that I will be removing. All the way back from May 2012!!! May this project drags on...
Look how clean & shiny my frame & this stainless bracket are!
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You can see the AN fitting I'm keeping at the top of the fuel heater hose here
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And here is a glorious shot from the other day showing what that stainless tab & the frame, etc. look like after sitting neglected outside for 3-4 years about a mile from the ocean!
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Hose removed & capped for now, and stainless bracket that held the 90* AN fitting at the frame removed as it's not needed anymore. New -AN fitting will go on the lift pump when I have time & the stock strainer will get cut off so as to clean things up.
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All in all this should be a cleaner setup, with less connections = less area for potential leaks, less hard 90's & turns, etc. So hopefully my little extra time in redoing this is worth it.


And last..., I bit the bullet & ordered my speedo from eBay. A bit miffed as it was advertised as new but paint is missing on bezel so definitely been at least bouncing around in the box forever if never actually out & messed with. I HATE the fact that buyer has to pay shipping on returns for instances like this & since not spending the $15 or so to ship back is important to me because I'm cheap & trying to pinch pennies here for important stuff, I'm just gonna complain to the seller then touch up the bezel. Hopefully my flat black paint matches!
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About bloody time! :D
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That's what I thought! Glad you approve Rod. Thanks for being a part of the catalyst/motivation to get me off my arse!


Here's another update of what I've been messing with over the last week or so:

4-3-17 Late night I made up the mock up fuel filter bracket out of aluminum
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4-4-17 I test fit the bracket. Seemed to fit well enough to move onto the real bracket = 316 stainless
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4-9-17 I "started" the real bracket. Although I didn't get any further than tracing it on the stainless...
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4-10-17 Lunch break got me a little bit of progress, which I also continued today (4-11-17), but it still doesn't look much different than this pic
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Aside from the fuel filter mount since I can never just focus on one thing at a time, & since I had some free time at lunch I started looking at my air filter setup. I've had a filter sitting here for years, so why not start now...
4-5-17 I grabbed a piece of 4" exhaust pipe I had left over with some bends that looked like they might work & I went out to the truck
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1 hour or so, a few slices of the band saw, a bit of time on the belt sander, and a little time behind the sand blast cabinet (so as to clean the exhaust soot out of the pipe mainly) later and I had something that was looking like it may work
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This is a BIG filter but it fit well under the hood, with a bit of space above the inner fender. Seems like it'll get pretty good fresh air flow as well.
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4-6-17 I start by tacking up the 2 pieces of intake tube from yesterday
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All excited I run out to the truck on lunch again to do a test fit & see if I can weld-er-up. NOPE! This is when panic set in a bit... I'm a bit rusty in working on stuff & REALLY looking around at all the variables to make sure I have all my ducks in order before starting to fab. Well... the danged alternator wasn't in the truck & it looked like it was gonna be close! I moved out of my shop about 4 years ago now & packed parts for this thing & my other projects all over the garage. I try & have things organized to have certain project parts together or in a certain part of the garage, but even with that I often can't find crap! Heck I've even re-ordered parts I already had (u-bolts for my rear axle!) since I had forgotten I had ordered um & didn't see um with my other axle parts...
Anyway, luck was on my side this time & I remembered seeing a box labeled alternator recently. Headed to the box right away & sure enough I was in luck. I'd rather be lucky than good many times. I guess it doesn't hurt that I'm a good pack rat & label things well.

Alternator on, test fit commence with fingers crossed...

Crisis averted - it fits!
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It's a tight fit with everything there, but nothing touches!
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I got this welded up the other night. Next I just need to roll the beads in the ends & then fab up a little support bracket for the filter end.
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At one stage, I was sure you would finish before me. I even surprised myself once I got started with the painting and all the other bit and pieces how quickly it started all coming together. Hopefully, if all goes well, I can actually drive it the weekend after Easter. So, stay motivated, and get into it any chance you can, it will surprise you how quick it will start to progress. :D
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You are very right. It took a bit to pry myself off the couch at night & get to work, but once I started forcing myself to do it the ball got rolling & the motivation picked up more & I find myself sneaking time to get little things done.

Congrats on approaching the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm sure it will feel great to drive it again!
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Yes! It's back! I'll take a couple days off work next week so I don't fall behind!
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Behind?? I'm trying to catch up to your last sprint still!

Haven't touched it since this last post. Today was to be the day as workload was lighter & boss out for a bit so some garage hookey was in my sights. Fate killed that & handed me what seems like a 24 hr flu instead. I'm bummed/annoyed right now, but that's life I guess. At least I've stopped puking for the day it seems...
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Hope you feel better soon! It's looking really good
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Time for another slightly overdue update, with not much progress to show.

After being sick on Thurs the 20th & still recovering a bit on that Fri I didn't get anything done. Come Monday 4-24-17 I got back in the shop on lunch and got the holes drilled fro the dimples. Late at night I got the thing bend up & the dimples flared.
Here's a shot part way through
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4-25-17 I test fit the aux. filter bracket on lunch & got the holes finalized there. The big/long filter doesn't stick down past the frame super far, but it does go below it. Due to this I have ordered a shorter filter (found a +/-7" long, 9 Micron donaldson I'll use) and I'll set up the dip tube based on that once the filters get here in a couple days.
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I also pulled the top of the inlet to the lift pump at this time so as to redo the fitting to a -8 AN. Hindsight being 20/20 and knowing what I know now I could have just left the stock 90* fitting in the lift pump that the 90*/elbow hose from the fuel filter connected to. I could have just turned that 180* or so and connected the new 1/2" feed hose to that. I had already purchased the AN fitting though & I convince myself it wasn't a waste as my 90* fitting on the end of the hose is sweeping vs. a hard, 90* turn - better hydraulics... yeah... that's it!
Stock fitting from the lift pump is here with my new -8AN below it
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I got the new fitting in & quickly realized I should have not been lazy & just pulled the pump. In about 1/2 hour of trying & cursing I couldn't get the fitting start back on the lift pump while fighting the internal springs. This gave me an excuse to pull the pump like I should have initially & cut off the furl heater assembly completely since I was ditching it.

4-26-17 Lift pump with the fuel heater pulled & inlet fitting successfully re-installed. This was much easier on the bench vs. fighting the tire and my shock hoop to do this one the truck.
Here's the starting of the cut off of the fuel heater. I'm just going to use the space for the lift pump here so hacked off the heater & then cleaned up the spacer a bit & painted it after this pic was taken.
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Side note:
I was looking at changing the hard that goes from the lift pump to the stock fuel filter. Trying to keep the "big line" theme going here. I was looking for -8 parts & 1/2" hose but there is no banjo to -8AN fitting for where this hits the fuel filter. Therefore -6 was as big as I could go with things. In measuring the stock tube and the –6 stuff, they are about the same size, so no sense in changing really.
My -6 fitting ID = .241" & stock metal tube fitting necks down to .250" at flare/connection to LP. That's a little bigger than the -6 AN stuff so why waster the time & $$. So I thought... See below

This brings us to today - 5/2-2-17
I just went out on lunch & bolted the lift pump back on the truck. I fought the stupid hard line coming out the top of the lift pump that goes to the fuel filter though. After 10-15 min. of trying I had to call it & come back in & go back to work. Man I HATE hard lines. They NEVER seem to be easy to get the threads started. If I had gone AN I wouldn't be fighting this POS!! Gonna try & head back out at 5 for a few min to see if taking a break from it makes any difference. Days like this tick me off = something that is supposed to be simple & quick fights you & wastes a bunch of time. Oh wait, that's darn never every day on this truck!!!
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Re: A pair of 74's...

Post by ChaseTruck754 »

Warning: Rant coming!

Man I effing hate my truck right now & it seems clear it hates me!
I'm in a bad mood now due to that stupid fitting!

Of course I couldn't wait til 5 to mess with it again & work was slightly quiet, so for 3 or 4 5-20 minute spurts I'd go out to the truck & mess with it. Finally said enough is enough I'm not getting this & cranked it in.

Pretty sure I cross threaded the piss out of that fitting trying to get this to work. The fitting on the top of the lift pump is aluminum where the brass fitting on the hard line screws in & I'm pretty sure I killed it. Will find out when I try & start this thing years from now & it pisses fuel everywhere...
Hopefully that doesn't happen, but who knows. I guess I will find out then.
I'm currently thinking I should have spent the money and gone –AN stuff just for headache factor Have I mentioned I HATE hard lines?). Never figured this thing would be this much of a pain in the a$$ to get back in though.

Oh well, if I have to redo it later I'll spend the $ on the -AN stuff and kick myself for not doing it now...

So here it is, in all it's glory... That brass fitting on top with the hard line coming out of it is the one you can thank for my attitude in this post
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It looks a lot cleaner overall than before (pic below for comparison), but the pump itself is a bit cleaner too thanks to all the fuel that pissed all over the place from that stupid water separator on the base of the fuel filter that I hit every two seconds trying to fight the fitting in... Hey, doing this prompted me to swear off the water separator. Next filter won't have one.

Pre cleanup assembly:
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