Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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Re: Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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Saturday 3 November:
Thursday, I fitted new inserts to the wiper arms, splashed on some satin black and fitted them up. I also picked up an air filter for the propane mixer. I need an air filter on this new engine, so it doesn't get ruined (although I think the rings were scuffed when the heater let go and overheated it during cam run-in). No sense being lazy and ruining a rebuild. I WAS going to drive it to work Friday, but at breakfast, I heard rain hit the tin roof for about 5 mins, and it was very dark to the north, so I left it at home. Sure enough, half way to work, the heavens opened and it PISSED DOWN! Like, "full speed wipers just to see where I was going" rain. Anyway, once I got home from work, I dragged out the propane tank, the mounts and a few other things to get ready to fit it up today.
So, after the Handbrake left for work, I lifted the tank with the engine crane, dropped it into the tub, positioned it and dropped in the bolts. Once they were done up, I connected the supply hose and wiring and tied everything up with zip ties. Once I connected the mixer to the convertor, I started trying to get it to run on propane. NO GO.
After checking everything I could think of, I dis-connected the tank hose and quickly bumped the key, only to get vapour at low pressure. Hmmmmm, no propane. I was sure this thing was part full when it came out. Anyway, I had another tank (out of Mike's Falcon) with gas still in it, so that got jury-rigged up and I had liquid to the lock off valve, but no propane at the convertor. Aftre testing and replacing the lock valve, I still had nothing, so I'll have to assume that the convertor is R.S. I also flattened the battery trying to get it to start/run.
While I was looking for other parts to try and fix the propane system, I stumbled across the 80A alternator I'd had built 15 or so years ago, and after comparing the two, I removed the non-working one, stripped them both down and made one from the two. I actually could have just put in a new regulator and made the old one go, but I wanted the higher charging rate. The conversion required the front housing from the old alternator to be retrofitted to the new assembly, which was accomplished with minimal fuss. Once bolted on, now the volt gauge shoots to 13 1/2 volts.
A quick check over done I went for a short drive, only to find out the secondaries in the new carb will not meter fuel. Wnen I open the throttle hard, it just flat spots badly. It does the same even when I try feeding the secondaries in gently. I've checked EVERYTHING I can think of, without taking it apart, so I've sent an email to the company I bought it off, and am waiting for a reply. I don't wan't to take it apart yet, don't want to ruin any warranty.
Other than that, it drives good. I will have to re-gear the diffs, too, to make it cruise at 2000 rpm or so @ 70 mph. Its only doing barely 1600 with the 3.7 and 33 inch tyres. The math says 4.56 gears will give me 2100 @ 70 mph in O/D, so that might work. I might have a 4.09 TTB pumpkin lined up I can re-gear for the front, and I already have brand new 4.56's for the 9inch, just need a Detroit or TruTrac to make up the spare pumpkin. I'll get the carb sorted and the propane working first, get the trans going properly, then look at the gearing.
Pics:
Wipers fitted:
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Propane mixer fitted and connected:
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Propane tank installed (temporary):
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33's vs 31's vs 29's:
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If I refit the 29's, it will give me back some gear to raise the rpm's a little. I'll look at that tomorrow arvo, after the range visit.
More later.
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Re: Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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Monday 5 November:
I picked up a jerry can of premium fuel on the way home from work, topped up the truck and started some exhaustive testing. After trying various combinations, I have come to the annoying conclusion that having the propane mixer above the secondary air flaps is causing them to either flutter, or to not open at all and fail to meter air and fuel correctly. Without the mixer on the adaptor, no air filter or normal sports air filter, it goes like a cut cat. Put ANY mixer combo on top of the carb, the secondaries have a heart attack. When it runs correctly, I can spin the rear 33's on rough asphalt from a standing start, no brakes, with ease.
So, I have 2 options:
Option 1/ Rebuild the 500 Holley 2bbl correctly (I've only ever changed jets on this carb, it was purchased "rebuilt"), with a 30cc accell pump and re-fit it. I only need gasoline when it runs out of propane, to get me to a re-fill, so the Holley will be a throttle plate for 99% of the time. A 30cc accell pump will be better for general (get-me-to-a-gas-station) use.
Option 2/ Fit a Impco carb and go straight propane, like Mike's Bronco. Mike gets 400 or so km from 100 litres of propane (250 miles from 26.6 us gals) or 4 km per litre) (9.3mpg), so with a much bigger tank, a newer, better breathing engine, O/D, mine should do better. His Bronco desperately needs proper tuning of the gas system to get it more economical, although 4 - 6 km per litre is not uncommon with Broncos or F trucks. 100 litres is 22 imperial gallons, so the mileage varies depending on which yardstick one uses. 250 miles improves to 11.4 mpg using imperial gallons. With correct tuning for straight propane, the Bronco should get around 12 city - 18 h/way mpg. so that is a considerable improvement. Mine should be closer to 20 on the h/way. With the current tank (155L) and the same tank as the Bronco under the rear (115L), I'll have 270L to use, which should give me around 1,300+ km's to a fill @ 5km per litre (15mpg).
Long story short, I've figured out the carb problem, now to solve it permanently. The Edelbrock carb can go on the Falcon race car in the garage. The Holley is not sensitive to mixer placement, so that will hopefully cure the issue for good. Once I've done 500 km on gasoline to make sure the rings are bedded, it will switch to propane and go from there. I've ordered a Century H240 convertor (good for 400hp) as the replacement for the dead one, and once the propane tank is tested and re-certified, it will go back in for good. Now to tune the TV cable for correct operation, work out a new gearing (might throw in the old 4.10 8.8 for a test to see if it's better), tyres, alignment, interior and think about finishing the tub, so I can get it on the road.
I just ordered a new radiator shroud, and will fit the mechanical fan to see if that helps to stabilise the cooling system, then take it for a LONG drive to work out any bugs.
More later. :)
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Saturday November 10:
I have an hour to write a post, then I have to go fix a potato peeler at the fish & chip shop, so here goes.

I've been driving to work and back this week. Mostly, it's been fun, and I've enjoyed the feeling of it going again. It has had some annoying niggles, like unusual rattles I cannot find, and other small issues. Thursday, I took those bloody Coopers off, it was like driving on solid wooden tyres, I could feel every bump and ripple in the road surface. Once the 235's were back on, the ride has improved noticeably, but it is still harsh. I have taken into account the fact that now, the cab is poly mounted, not rubber, the truck has poly bushes thoughout the suspension (except for the beam pivots) and the engine has Autofab race mounts front and rear fitted, so EVERY vibration is amplified. Removing the wooden Coopers alleviated a lot of the vibration through the drivetrain, but it is still quite sensitive. Once I have sound deadening and carpet fitted, the door trims installed and maybe the second bullet in the exhaust, it will be much quieter. The exhaust noise is quite pleasent inside the cab with the window closed, but it IS a bit too noisy outside. The throttle has been sticking a bit, hanging the idle too high whenever I stop, forcing me to blip the pedal slightly. I've fixed that by fitting the second spring from the TV cable bracket kit and dripping some oil from the dipstick to lube the pivot lever. I also lowered the idle speed a little, it creeps too hard against the brakes in gear and tends to heat up quicker until I get moving again. The shroud should arrive Monday or Tuesday, so I can fit the mechanical fan and see if that helps cooling at idle. The fuel guage is all over the shop, which is pissing me off. It's a new sender, but it just won't stay stable and give me an accurate reading. I left the Edelbrock carb on for now, concentrating on running the engine in properly for propane use. I will order the propane stuff for the week I return from O/S, so that it's ready to go on as soon as I can get to it. I am 98% going full propane. 99% of the places I go, have propane and I will ensure I have plenty of reserve capacity, so I don't get caught out. KISS. Propane is a sealed system, it will run upside down, burns clean and green, so I won't have problems with soleniods, pumps, etc. like I might have with dual fuel. Being a liquid system and sealed behind numerous one-way valves, it is almost impossible to steal, without specialised equipment. I also have a hose kit to hook up a BBQ bottle to get me to a servo if I do happen to run out, so I will almost NEVER be stranded. My spares kit will be a couple of solenoid coils, a re-build kit each for the mixer and convertor and a spare lock-off valve.

The auto is pretty much behaving now. I've got the TV cable 'almost' perfect, no slipping or wierd shifting, and I will fine tune more later today. Now I have to make up the cooler lines, mount the filter and new cooler and that's another job done. With the 235's installed, it isn't geared too bad now, with O/D being used in 80 km/h zones without pulling it down too far. I've decided to go to 4.11 gears, with 33's this will give me the best compromise between town and highway (1 - 2 & D for town, O/D for the highway) and over Xmas, I will pull out the spare 351C I have and start laying it out for a rebuild, specifically to maximise propane use. That will be a separate thread, methinks.

The suspension is up for consideration. The only radius arms I like are SWP's, but not sure they are still in business. I like the way the rear uniball is captured, rather than a heim relying solely on it's physical strength. The beams I can C&T and diff clock here, and use a Desolate kit to uniball and plate them. J40's I can get, along with the required correct hangers, but I'll have to pay through the nose for the shipping of the springs, and either ProComp front 4" springs, or go coil overs with the Desolate engine cage. I have a frame and cab lined up for the New Year, so I can build a caged cab and structure to make it bolt-on for my truck, rather than have mine off the road again for an extended period. That way, I can take my time and build it the way I want: full cab cage, tied to the shock mount/engine cage and a removable rear cage section to tie the frame solid front to rear. That will take a lot of the harshness out of the ride, and I will feel safer pounding through the outback at speed.
That's it for now. Have to go do some work.
Catch ya'll later. ;)
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Tuesday 13 November:
Well, the truck has been put away for the holidays, my parents will come and stay to keep an eye on things and look after the chickens. I've re-done my list(s), and will start again after I return. I have to replace the LH upper ball joint, that's the reason the LF wheel leans over so far. I found that when I changed back to the 235's. The Rh one is ok, so I will just replace the one, to get past RWC, and there are a few other things that need doing. The shroud better arrive tomorrow, otherwise it will stay at the post office for a while, or I'll get my Dad to pick it up for me. Anyway, I have a 4 am start tomorrow, so I'll catch you all later.
Cheers.
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December 2:
Whew! It's been a busy few weeks, with one more to go. Spent 5 days in Nanjing, the original Imperial capitol of China, visiting old friends from the Desert Trek, then by hi-speed train to Shenzhen for my father-in-law's 80th birthday, then off to Ha'erbin, in northern HeiLongJiang (Manchuria). In Nanjing, we visited the memorial museum of the Nanjing Massacre by the Japanese in WW2, then the Memorial Museum in Ha'erbin, about the Japanese Unit 731, that conducted bacterial, poison gas, germ warfare and vivisection experiments (on LIVE victims) from 1939 to 1945. After visiting Hiroshima and it's Memorial Museum, I'm a bit shell-shocked by all three, unable to decide which was worse. Anyway, we then went to Yabuli Ski Resort for 3 days to play in the snow, and flew back Friday (from -12C to 24C in 12 hours) to Shenzhen. We are off to HK on Tuesday for shopping and staying overnight in Macau for the Handbrake's 50th, then back to SZ for a few days shopping for car bits and electronics before heading home Sunday 9th (actually Monday 10th, at 12:05 am). Looking forward to a soft bed, these rock hard things are killing my lower back and left shoulder. Can't wait to get the truck out again and drive it, I've missed it badly. More after I return home. ;)
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Sunday December 9:
All packed and ready to go home. The Handbrake and I will head for HK this arvo, and have dinner before I take the train to the airport. Should get home around 5 -6 pm Monday arvo. Didn't get to go parts shopping as much as I wanted to, but I have a couple of things for the truck. Can't wait to drag it out of the shed and drive it again. I also need to go on a diet, I think I've put on about 10 lbs while here. Too much f***ing food! I've been stuffed like a christmas goose here. :oops:
I'll update once I'm back home. Cheers all.
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December 27:
Time for an update.
Since getting back from China, I've been stuffed. Always tired, unable to adjust to the constant weather changing and just lacking energy. Work broke up on the 21st, and I've been languishing at home, unable to get any motivation going. I did get the truck out of the shed last weekend, but I've been waiting for parts before I do anything. I tried the A/C mechanical fan on the engine after removing the electric fans, but found it was badly bent just before I went to fire it up. 2 of the blades would have seriously hit the alt pulley, so off it came. Mick brought up a clutch fan set-up he had from one of his Falcons, so I'll get that on over the weekend. I had to go to Baccus Marsh to weld up a chassis crack on a 775G today, left at 5 am and got there before it got warm, got the job done and was going to do the PC1250 boom cracks, but I slipped and fell off the ladder. Someone left a huge chunk of grease on the step and of course, I slipped on it and luckily landed HARD on my feet in the soft ground. However, I landed awkwardly on my left foot and it seems I've done something to both feet, as I can only walk on the balls of my feet, can't put the heels down without severe pain. They're getting better with a few Coronas, but I hope they are better for tomorrow, as I have to go back and do the PC1250 boom cracks before they go back to work. Oh well.
My hoses and fitting for the trans cooler arrived last week, and my ball joint press tools and upper BJ arrived today. That will be the weekend's job: replace the LH upper ball joint. I just hope I can find my D44 hub nut socket :oops: It's 40C outside, so I'll stay indoors today, where it's cooler and rest up. Once the weather cools a little, I'll prep and paint the tub, make my bedcage, etc and finalise the RWC for club plates. I'll post some pics later.
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Jan 2, 2019:
Pics as promised:
I'd already removed the electric fans to fit the mechanical fan.
Repro shroud for the radiator:
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Had to re-position the return line from the P/S box under the pressure line so the shroud would clear:
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Fitted the mechanical fan and (too short) spacer:
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If you look carefully, the 2 bottom blades are bent back (enough to hit the alt pulley:
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After removing the damaged fan, I got the truck out of the garage and reversed it into the carport, ready to do the ball joint
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Sorry, as usual, I get too excited and forget to take pics as I'm working, but it came apart easily and the top ball joint was replaced without bloodshed. This is how far I got last night before it started to get dark:
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Clutch fan fitted. I didn't paint it in case I needed to buy a bigger dia. fan, or it didn't work. It's fine for now and moves the air through the radiator nicely:
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This TTB is out of a 1990, so it has this weird locknut. Never seen one of these before, only the old style t nuts and lockplate type:
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Anyway, around 7 pm or so, once it cools down some, I'll head out to re-install the hub/rotor, caliper and locking hub and get it back on the ground. The next part is sorting out the trans cooler BEFORE I burn up my (new) AOD. Installing a Derale filter kit ans fan assisted 6AN tub and fin cooler. We will install my current setup on the Bronco. Once the cooler is installed and working, I'm gonna drive this bitch to Melb and see how she does on long trips, not just around town. Looking forward to it. :D
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January 28:
Finally got all the fittings and shit together and one scorchingly hot afternoon after work, I sat down in front of the truck and started making up the AN6 hoses for the trans cooler lines. I had to run them tight at the bell housing to keep them clear of the exhaust, so I fabbed a small aluminium bracket and used a P clip to keep them tucked tight. Once I was happy with that, I slid some heatproof sheath over each hose and using a billet clamp, secured them up and around the starter:
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Then I connected the cooler up and fitted the Derale filter mount:
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Now I can breathe easier, the auto won't be cooked and the lines should be able to withstand the heat the exhaust on this beast sheds when it is running.

Next, I decided I wanted to go back to the bench seat. I can't store a gun case behind the bucket seats without it being visible, and I prefer the bench for long distance travel (plus I can sleep across the cab) AND I can hide a gun case and ammo cans out of sight. That meant I also had to fab a new mount for the auto shifter. I'm getting a bit tired of the rachet shifter, too, so when funds are available, I'll throw a B&M Pro Stick on it and call it done. This is mk3 of the mount for the shifter:
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I have to make up a heat shield for the Y pipe, too. The floor gets so hot, it's melting the seam sealer in the floor joint and taking off the paint:
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I've bought a heat shield sheet to cut and roll to fit, and I will weld some bolts to use as stands to hold the heat shield tight around the Y pipe to keep the heat off both the floor and away from the auto and cooler lines. I'll post them pics up as I fab the stuff.
While this is happening, I will pull the 3rd out of the 9" and re-gear to 4.57:1 to see how it matches up with both everyday driving and OD on the highway. Just waiting for a new LSD clutch plate set so I can make one pumpkin out of 2. More later.
Cheers. :D
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29 January:
Houston, we have a problem. See it yet? No?
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Clutches are fine, but the hemisphere, well, it's toast:
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No wonder it "single wheels" when I gave it the boot.
With a Detroit Locker at $800 - $1,000, and the Trutrac not far behind (buying them here or from O/S) I either have to source a billet hemisphere or go to a spool.
Bugger!
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Feb 13:
Well, after being stuffed around for over a week by a local supplier/workshop in Melb, I gave up and after trolling ebay, I found a billet hemisphere in the states. It works out about $60 bucks more than buying it locally, but at least they had the one I wanted and it's on it's way:
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Once it arrives, I'll fit it up with the 4.57's, replace the axle bearing that's leaking and re-assemble the 9". Then it will be a highway test to check the gearing, re-set the speedo gear and see how it performs with Mick's old Cooper 33's on. I've located a rear propane tank and brackets the same as in Mike's Bronco, so I'll find time to pick that up, get a front driveshaft done, and start assembling the bits to re-gear the front bolt-in TTB pumpkin to match the rear. Now that the weather looks like it's settling down, I can start getting the bed cage organised, paint the tub and finalise the prep for club plates.
More later.
Cheers.
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Feb 24:
Well, wasn't I surprised when my "billet hemisphere" turned up. Not only did I get what I ordered but also the COMPLETE BILLET CARRIER! :shock: Anyway, I bought some gasoline as parts wash and disassembled the old carrier, making sure to arrange the parts as I washed them in the order they had to be re-assembled. After washing the new carrier, I installed all the spiders, shims and pins, then assembled the clutch pack with liberal coatings of fresh 85W/ 140 gear lube. All other metal contact areas were lubed with hi-temp bearing grease:
My work area:
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Billet case:
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Billet hat:
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Complete assembled carrier and 4.57 ring gear ready for install:
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The ring gear install had a minor issue. The roll pin holes for the short pinion pins were out about 0.020" too far out from centre, so the ends of these 2 pins stuck out just enough to stop the ring gear going on. Some VERY careful use of the grinder with a fine cutting disc sanded the corners off enough to allow the RG to seat without interference. Somehow I managed to get the carrier bearing off the old halves without damaging or destroying them, they were re-fitted to the new carrier. It turns out getting the new billet assembly was a good thing, as some fuckwit smashed up the end of the old carrier with a hammer intalling the bearing previously, so it is now scrap.
The next issue was when I cleaned up the casing, and fitted up the carrier to set the backlash. I couldn't move the carrier in far enough and it got jammed. It turns out the new billet carrier is fatter at the area near the pinion pilot boss and interferes. The difference in size can be seen here:
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So, off came the carrier after I carefully marked the spot, stuffed the gear space with clean rags and with the grinder and a used grinding disc, carefully sanded off what I considered was a sufficient ammount to provide the clearance needed.
Cont.
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Diff ass'y cont:
Clearance spot:
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Once I cleaned everything up, I re-fitted the carrier and it all went well.
All torqued up and ready to fit:
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I think you can just see the clearance I have left, about 0.035" (camera angle is not perfect, but you get the idea):
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I got all energetic and crawled under the truck, cleaned out the bottom of the housing and the gasket face, Ultra Blued the new gasket and dropped in the pumpkin. Once that was nipped up, on went the driveshaft and in went the axles. I put a little Ultra Blue on the seal edge on the RHS axle seal because there was a slight weep around the outside of the axle seal. Hopefully that will hold until I do the rear end up properly. No pics of assembly yet, thats for tomorrow. I plan to get some oil on the way home from work, fill the axle and run it on the stands for a few minutes to get the oil completely through the bearings and carrier, let it sit for 1/2 hr then re-check and top up as needed. Then it's on the ground, torque up the wheel nuts and go for a short drive with the GPS to see how the new gear ratio affects the performance.
I'll update tomorrow night ;)
Cheers.
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Re: Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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Nice work Rod!

Amazing that people marketing stuff for something like the 9” that’s been around forever and things are still not matched up.
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Re: Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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Becks_Bronco wrote:Nice work Rod!

Amazing that people marketing stuff for something like the 9” that’s been around forever and things are still not matched up.
Thanks, Mate. :D
These 9" housing are all 2.89" carrier bearings designed in 1967 (C7 casting) and were designed for sedans with no lower than 4:10 gears. I've seen these with tooth contact on the pilot boss with 4:56 - 4:88 gears and have to be relieved. There is a sixties housing with 3.06" bearings and more clearance around the pilot boss for lower gearsets, but these don't have a fill plug in them. (I have one of these). These were superseded by the nodular carriers for hi- perf cars. Anyway, this is an experiment, with free gears to see what happens and the result is pretty good, I'm pleased to say. I can still spin those big 33" Coopers from a standing start on coarse asphalt and it gets up to speed quicker. The cruise is around 2150 - 2200 @ 70 mph (110 km/h). There is a slight whine on over-run at slower speeds, but if the axle bearing seal on the RHS still leaks, I'll pull the centre and take a few thou backlash out when I replace both the axle bearings/seals. So far, all good. :D :D I'll need to change the speedo gear 2 teethup to match the speedo up, but that'll get done tomorrow arvo, if I have time.
Later.
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Re: Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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That’s no bad at all. My bronco on stock gearing and 31’s is about 1950rpm at 70. Yours is in a good spot for a bit more pep, but not screaming at comfortable highway speeds.
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Becks_Bronco wrote:That’s no bad at all. My bronco on stock gearing and 31’s is about 1950rpm at 70. Yours is in a good spot for a bit more pep, but not screaming at comfortable highway speeds.
It still struggles slightly on a decent grade, but it's ok for now. Still considering going to 4.88's to bring the revs to 2300 or so, as the Cleveland engine with it's big 2V ports has its sweet spot around 2400 - 2500 rpm. 35-12.5R17's on 17" x 9" Methods and the new 383 stroker engine will move along nicely at around 2200 cruise @ 70 mph (110km/h max highway limit here) with a set of 4.88's, but I'll keep these for now and see how I like it. The new engine will be built for power between 1900 and 5000 rpm with torque 2200 - 3600. It will probably tax the AOD a little, but that is getting a TCI constant pressure valve body to help keep it alive and an extra fan fed cooler to double up on what I already have. It's fun to drive now, as I can power slide it at will in the dry around corners in 1st. Gave a GM fan boi the fright of his life yesterday when he took off at full throttle in his scaping-the-ground V6 shitbox and an old man overtook him (in an F truck)! Mastercard classic! :lol: :lol: Passed him on his left, the exhaust bellowing into his open windows drowned out the doof-doof sub in the trunk.
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Re: Rod's 84 BabyBajaF100

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March 8:
Been driving it a bit around town, getting the feel of the lower gearing, and I like it :D :D Most of my driving is in 3rd (direct) and with the convertor locked, it will idle around town nicely. PLENTY of grunt and easily matches most of the sporty sedans in outright accelleration. It can burn the little 235's easily at the traffic light starts, so I have to be gentle on the gas taking off to avoid the attention of mr plod. Going to do the speedo gear tomorrow along with the heat shield on the Y pipe (the floor gets bloody hot in traffic). The Pro Stick will be ordered next week, then the underfelt and carpet, clean and paint the door trims and install and it will finally be ready to think about club plates. Oh, and the bumpers need finishing and painting, too. :oops: :roll:
Pics tomorrow.
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