White 1994 F-150 Sleeper Build

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:12 am

Thanks Brian! Haha, I wish I was heading out to the dez this weekend...instead I'll be doing the Lake Hodges 50k on Saturday, and then not leaving the couch for the entire rest of the weekend lol!

motoxscott · Post by **motoxscott** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:43 pm

Look'in good !! Cho & Jonny do great work.

- Scott

BDKW1 · Post by **BDKW1** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:05 pm

Now you need some super inset wheels to correct your less than desirable scrub radius.

motoxscott · Post by **motoxscott** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:03 pm

BDKW1 wrote:Now you need some super inset wheels to correct your less than desirable scrub radius.

LOL ... no need for different offset wheels. What he has is fine and will handle great, speaking from experience of these exact parts on a similar truck. You of all people should know that you're always making compromises when you're using parts that are designed to use stock and aftermarket parts that cant be changed or vary and you're making things stronger. In a perfect world i-beams and spindles would have corrected kpi and scrub radius to match a specific wheel offset and tire size combination ... the problem is all the variables out there. Wheels, tires, hub designs, steering arm geometry, rotor size, caliper dimensions ... the list goes on. We have to build something that works with 90% of those combinations. So we bring the wheel closer in this case, well now the rotor hits the steering arm, then we move the rotor outward to solve that issue, but now the 4 piston caliper doesn't clear the backside of the wheel because how its cast and machined and the caliper has a wide profile ....... etc etc etc.

How do you feel about Raptors and Tundras that go with 17" KMC and Method wheels that have 4.75" of backspacing when their stock stock suspension geometry is set up for wheels that have 6-7" of backspacing? They have less than desirable scrub radius as well, worse than this setup .. but thousands out there are running them like that with no issues. Scrub radius is a form of tuning of the suspension and handling, hence why it will vary from builder to builder at the highest level. Zero isn't the answer for everyone. As soon as you put larger tires on a truck you change your scrub radius.

Im not gonna turn this into a debate, this is a thread about a truck build and a happy owner. Lets keep it that way

- Scott

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:28 pm

What he said ^^^

Thanks for saving me the typing Scott...and saying it better than I could have anyways.

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:32 pm

Finally got the chance to snap some pics of the truck now that everything is all back together.

And here's a couple detail shots of the steering.

Pitman:

Swinger:

Can't say enough good things about the work that Jonny and Cho did on this thing.

BDKW1 · Post by **BDKW1** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:24 pm

motoxscott wrote:How do you feel about Raptors and Tundras that go with 17" KMC and Method wheels that have 4.75" of backspacing when their stock stock suspension geometry is set up for wheels that have 6-7" of backspacing?

I feel that they will be just fine parading around the mall parking lot. If you actually use your truck, excessive scrub puts a lot of extra leverage on steering. Plain and simple fact, no debating about it.

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:59 am

Well that's perfect then, because that's what this truck is built for. The mall parking lot!

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:17 am

You should have cam burg swap out your hubs for 6x135 lug pattern, order your rear lend to match then run raptor wheels.

Fix the scrub and have a cool old mixed with new raptor.

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:17 am

Haha then swap in a 6.2

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:28 pm

Or just sell it and buy a raptor!

cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:24 pm

Haha then put beams on the raptor. I like it.

Turf Tamer · Post by **Turf Tamer** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:20 pm

nubreed71 wrote:Or just sell it and buy a raptor!

Been there done that. I'd keep what you have.

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:02 pm

That was purely in jest...I'd take my truck over a Raptor every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:33 pm

Scored a deal on a bed on Craigslist that I couldn't pass up. Gonna hang those Autofab bedsides with the bed off the truck, and then just do a bed swap. Anyone want to buy my old bed with flared sides and Line X liner?

Bed is pretty clean. Once it's spray lined, it'll look awesome.

Decided to do the majority of the cutting, but leave the taillight section for another day.

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:34 pm

Been chipping away at getting these bedsides hung. Definitely a bit of a PITA, especially since I want to retain the use of my tailgate, but this bed should look perfect once the sides are hung, and everything has been spray lined.

zachwabbit · Post by **zachwabbit** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:25 pm

Turned out great!! I'm liking your bed storage setup, been thinkin bout doin somethin like that in the back of my Bronco to keep my 5-gallon water jug, ammo can, and tool box secure on trails. Is that a custom mount?

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:34 pm

The jerry can mount is from Smittybilt, and the quart crates are from C4 fabworks, as is the jack and jack mount. Hope that helps!

zachwabbit · Post by **zachwabbit** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:46 pm

Thanks man! I finally sourced one of those annoyingly hard to find oem Bronco interior spare tire carriers, so I'm super glad that my spare will no longer be bouncing around in the back soon, now to secure everything else

nubreed71 · Post by **nubreed71** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:11 am

Had a fun trip out to Ocotillo Friday/Saturday.

Got the hub centric 'burg center caps mounted up

Truck ran great with the new steering, but ran into a fuel pressure issue late Friday night. Was mashing through some decent sized whoops at about 60 when I lost fuel pressure. Engine cut out and couldn't get it to fire back up. Checked the inertia switch, checked the fuel filter for a clog, all fine. Can hear the fuel pumps priming when I turn the key to the on position, but not getting pressure at the rails. Fuel lines don't seem to have any pinches/holes anywhere. So had to call the AAA chase truck for a ride home:

Had a chance to go for a hot lap in the CHOnco...that thing is amazing. So fun riding in that beast!

All in all a fun weekend...wish I could have driven home under my own power, but I guess of all the reasons to take a flatbed home, this is probably the least of a big deal.