96 351w Mild Build HELP

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:10 pm

Looking to hear from people with Mild builds on recommendations. I have looked for 2 days with little positive information.

1996 Ford Bronco 130K 351W

Looking for simple...don't need big power

Heads
Cam

Thanks GFB!!!

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dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:46 pm

What are your goals for the motor? Are you planning a rebuild or just bolt on upgrades?

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:07 pm

Just minor upgrades, pulling it to change rear main seal and do some other small things. Figure now is the time for any power adders.

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dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:49 pm

If you're going to tear it down completely, now would be the time to do an 87 octane 393 stroker builder.

However, you don't need to pull the motor to do the rear main seal. It can be done by dropping the trans and transfer case, which will be significantly easier than pulling the motor.

If you leave the motor in the truck to do the rear main seal, the easiest upgrades will be and Edelbrock Intake, BBK 56mm throttle body, heads, and a set of headers.

If you're set on pulling the motor, Car Craft in Upland has a very fairly priced machine shop for boring and honing blocks.

I need to do my rear main seal as well. I am going to take care of it whenever the need to upgrade my trans arrives. Hope this helps with you decision process.

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:56 am

Thank you, I'm pulling the motor so I can do a lot of other little things and clean the engine bay.

I have headers and a bbl throttle body.

I was thinking about the edelbrock intake along with heads and cam but looking for input from someone that has this setup.

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dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:39 am

There are plenty of EB guys who have mildly uilt 351w. My plan is to do a top end upgrade, until I can build a bulletproof E4OD.

Here's my list:

56mm BBK
Edelbrock Intake
TrickFlow 170 Twisted wedge heads
Bassani Headers
Crane Cams # 444212

Then dynotuned by Powertrain Dynamics in Huntington Beach.

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:30 am

Steve is great, he has done all the tricks I go out with, I was looking at those heads but they are $1650 on summit OUCH

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JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:33 am

$1650 heads
$250 cam
$700 edelbrock intake
$100 gaskets
$150 are studs

About 3k...not sure it's worth

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dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:11 pm

Yup, that's why I said leave the engine in the truck.

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:21 pm

Like I said it's coming out no matter what upgrades or not LOL

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RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:21 pm

JamesGrossaint wrote:$1650 heads
$250 cam
$700 edelbrock intake
$100 gaskets
$150 are studs

About 3k...not sure it's worth

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3k is a decent budget for bolt ons. Is that your max budget all in? Giving us a number makes it easier to choose.

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:10 pm

Never doing this I don't know what's right or wrong... I think 3k is a lot for a couple bolt obs compared to buying an ls with 350hp.

I just want feedback from people who have don't something.

Every forum I see " I plan to" and that doesn't help.

If someone says I run this combo it cost this much and it's worth it I'll spend the money.

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JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:13 pm

Done something*

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cs_drums · Post by **cs_drums** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:55 pm

Ryan above & Hollander are your best bet for mild build like your talking.

I don't think "buying an LS" is a proper comparison. There is a ton of time and money involved besides the cost of the motor when doing a swap.

I've try to skin this cat a million different ways on paper and the reality is to get a little extra power cost a good chunk of money and to get a lot of extra power is really expensive.

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dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:28 pm

cs_drums wrote:Ryan above & Hollander are your best bet for mild build like your talking.

I don't think "buying an LS" is a proper comparison. There is a ton of time and money involved besides the cost of the motor when doing a swap.

I've try to skin this cat a million different ways on paper and the reality is to get a little extra power cost a good chunk of money and to get a lot of extra power is really expensive.

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Agreed. Things you'll need to do an ls swap:

Motor
Trans
Transfer case
Wire harness
Ecu
Guage cluster
AND a ton of miscellaneous smaller parts to make it happen.

Ask "The Goonwagon" how much his LS swap ran him.

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:29 pm

Ryan,

What are a few option for these motors?

Stroker with stock heads?

Heads and cam?

I've looked everywhere but there isn't good information.

I'd like to spend 2k but if 3k make it I'll do it.

I have headers,mad ignition and a bbl throttle body already

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RyanDS650X · Post by **RyanDS650X** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:33 pm

Ok well I have edelbrock heads, upper and lower intake manifolds and headers, with an e303 cam. SCT dyno tuned on 87 made 211hp 289ft lbs. I have great time with it and it's more than enough for what I do. All in my set up just in the hard parts is in the 3k range.

Yes I would do it again and yes I think it's worth the money. I've got a forged internally balanced eagle crank and Happy beam rods sitting on the shelf just waiting for my current motor to have the slightest hiccup and I'll put another 3k into my 408 build.
For me I always want my truck to get better and if I can do it 3k at a time, you bet you ass I'd do it over and over.

How bow dah??

JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:40 pm

Ryan,

Do you have the head part number? I know the intake is 3881.

On the cam guys mention it's a mustang cam and changed rpm higher. Is there another option maybe or is this the go to for most?

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JamesGrossaint · Post by **JamesGrossaint** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:41 pm

Most information I've gotten thank you

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dtbback · Post by **dtbback** » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:50 pm

JamesGrossaint wrote:Steve is great, he has done all the tricks I go out with, I was looking at those heads but they are $1650 on summit OUCH

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They pop up from time to time on CL. That's where i got mine.