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Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:26 pm
by 93fsb
Hey everyone have any of you guys seen this before? It's a set of 4.5 beams built by Baja Race Shop, I've only seen where the lower ball joint is moved never the top. Any pros or cons on moving the upper ball joint?


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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 pm
by Wrightracing.net
I have a question, could they have been modified to use another knuckle, like a Dana 50 knuckle. I don't have any experience with them, but just a question.

David...

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:04 pm
by 93fsb
I'll have to ask, I was told it was designed for a bronco set up but I guess we can't rule out a dana 50 setup.

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:45 pm
by funinthesun95
Dana 50 or 44HD would change the spread between the two ball joints if it is not larger then the stock ( it would be a good amount) it is not for Dana 50 or 44HD

your sure the lower does not look like it be moved at all?

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:47 pm
by 93fsb
So I measured the gap between ball joints and they're the same. The lower has not been cut or moved. The top was moved inward opposite of what a standard cut and turned beam would have done. I talk with the seller and he said thas just how that particular shop sets there beams up. I'm get some hubs on and see what it looks like.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:19 am
by Wrightracing.net
It will be interesting how it works. I wonder what height lift it was made for. My concern would be the cv joint binding.
Let us know how it works. I have a new set for mine that the lower is just pushed out. Going wider 3" per side on mine.

David...

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:05 pm
by 93fsb
I've been slammed at work and to tires to mess with it. Maybe this weekend I can get in on the bench and assemble aspare set of knuckles I have and see what it looks like. I have some stock width cut and turned beams from camburg so ill try to get a comparison. Either way I'll let you know. I hope they work it'll save me some time trying to cut mine up to extend them.

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:58 pm
by ChaseTruck754
If they are extended beams while moving the top ball joint isn't common it seems it would give the same affect = correct the camber at a given ride height. Bind at the furthest out joint/stub axle COULD be the one possible detriment as pointed out. I'm interested to see what what you find. Not sure I remember hearing of anyone moving the top balljoint only. It's typically either moving out the bottom or V cutting the beam & angling both ball joints together.

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:38 pm
by 93fsb
Here's an update with the beams. I got it all torn down yeterday and the passenger side new beam put up with a tire on it. At ride height, and measuring straight down the frame rail to the beam it's at 6.5" with 4 degrees negative camber. If I go to 7.5" frame to beam it's at 0 degrees camber. I haven't started the driver side yet so I'll be back with that info as I get it.

Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:26 pm
by 93fsb
Got the driver side up and same numbers. This is with a 0 degree cam, no shocks and no vehicle weight on it.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:55 pm
by Wrightracing.net
So did you move the upper joint in? I would think it would go in by .50" to .75" ???

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Re: Modified upper ball joint??

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:12 pm
by 93fsb
Yeah the upper is moved in, not exactly sure how much I'll check it out when I get home.