Start Your Go-Fast Build-Rear Suspension
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I need some help here guys...
So heres the deal, i found some new national leafs for a f150 and C&D shackles for $600...First off is that a good price? Also can i use these shackles with some sort of spacers?
Heres the specs the guy gave me on the springs:
10 leaf pack
leaf eyelet to eyelet - 52"
spring width - 2.5"
spring arch - 14"
shackle eyelet to eyelet - 7.25" - Is this to long?
Should I go for it?
So heres the deal, i found some new national leafs for a f150 and C&D shackles for $600...First off is that a good price? Also can i use these shackles with some sort of spacers?
Heres the specs the guy gave me on the springs:
10 leaf pack
leaf eyelet to eyelet - 52"
spring width - 2.5"
spring arch - 14"
shackle eyelet to eyelet - 7.25" - Is this to long?
Should I go for it?
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you can use spacers, or washers. I think that shacle may be too long, well it will work, but you'd have to do some trimming on the floor. Offer him a little less.
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Re: Start Your Go-Fast Build-Rear Suspension
Trimming the floor can cause problems, leap frog the hanger to lower it so the shackle just clears the floor. I will be doing this on my bronco.Nick wrote:you can use spacers, or washers. I think that shacle may be too long, well it will work, but you'd have to do some trimming on the floor. Offer him a little less.
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Thx for the help guys...Nick i talked him down to $500 with the shackles.
Phil what the heck is leapfrogging? HAHA
I can get just the leafs even cheaper...should I even bother with these shackles? What length shackles are you guys running?
Phil what the heck is leapfrogging? HAHA
I can get just the leafs even cheaper...should I even bother with these shackles? What length shackles are you guys running?
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How much less without the shackles? You can run them with the stockers, the extended shackles just give the leafs a little more performance. Then later if you want, you give Mark from Southwest performance a call, and get a set of these.Rwies wrote:Thx for the help guys...Nick i talked him down to $500 with the shackles.
Phil what the heck is leapfrogging? HAHA
I can get just the leafs even cheaper...should I even bother with these shackles? What length shackles are you guys running?
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That's just what I've heard old guys call it. You just take a piece of angle iron and bolt it to the bottom of the frame and then move the hangar down and bolt it to the angle and frame. This way you get a longer shackle without changing ride height or pinion angle.Rwies wrote:Phil what the heck is leapfrogging? HAHA
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Nick the guy said he wants $100 for the shackles which means I could get the leafs for $400. What does Mark charge for his shackles?
Phil, thanks for explaining leapfroggin...ill keep that in mind!
Phil, thanks for explaining leapfroggin...ill keep that in mind!
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Picking up the leaf springs and shackles after work today!
To make up for the 1/2 in difference in leaf spring width I was going to cut out some 2.5 in diameter washers using 1/4 inch plate.
Would you guys recommend welding them to the inside of the leaf hanger so they dont rotate?
To make up for the 1/2 in difference in leaf spring width I was going to cut out some 2.5 in diameter washers using 1/4 inch plate.
Would you guys recommend welding them to the inside of the leaf hanger so they dont rotate?
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You don't need to weld them, if the leaf springs bolts are tightened enough they won't rotate and the bushing will do it's job.Rwies wrote:Picking up the leaf springs and shackles after work today!
To make up for the 1/2 in difference in leaf spring width I was going to cut out some 2.5 in diameter washers using 1/4 inch plate.
Would you guys recommend welding them to the inside of the leaf hanger so they dont rotate?
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Nice!Rwies wrote:Picking up the leaf springs and shackles after work today!
To make up for the 1/2 in difference in leaf spring width I was going to cut out some 2.5 in diameter washers using 1/4 inch plate.
Would you guys recommend welding them to the inside of the leaf hanger so they dont rotate?
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Ive got an issue here...when i got home i measured the leaf springs and there 2.25" wide...not 2.5"...this doesnt sound right! are the f150 springs dead on 2.5"?
I really need your guys input, the guy said he would give me the $$ back so i need to make a decision...HELP!!!
Thanks
I really need your guys input, the guy said he would give me the $$ back so i need to make a decision...HELP!!!
Thanks
Re: Start Your Go-Fast Build-Rear Suspension
Should I just get my cash back and look for some Deaver F53's?
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My Deavers are 54.25 eye to eye, and are exactly 2.5 inches.
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how much are those running? i was looking at the camburg ones alsoNick wrote:How much less without the shackles? You can run them with the stockers, the extended shackles just give the leafs a little more performance. Then later if you want, you give Mark from Southwest performance a call, and get a set of these.Rwies wrote:Thx for the help guys...Nick i talked him down to $500 with the shackles.
Phil what the heck is leapfrogging? HAHA
I can get just the leafs even cheaper...should I even bother with these shackles? What length shackles are you guys running?
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FWIW the 2.25 will work...I would be concerned with roll though. I have heard some dont like the 2.5" spring for this very reason. I stucke with a 3" wide spring the J40 from Deaver not sure what the measurments are but I like this much better than the one with less arch.Rwies wrote:Ive got an issue here...when i got home i measured the leaf springs and there 2.25" wide...not 2.5"...this doesnt sound right! are the f150 springs dead on 2.5"?
I really need your guys input, the guy said he would give me the $$ back so i need to make a decision...HELP!!!
Thanks
If it were me I would see if you can get your money back on the springs and shackles and either wait for a set to shjow up on the classifieds or make a trip to deaver and see what kind of a deal you can make. I wont post the price I paid for my last set but it was less than what you paid used. I know I got a"good guy" price becuase A they were on the shelf and B we were one week out from a race and my bronco was the priamry chase vehicle for that one so they took pity on us
Another thing to consider is you really have no idea of knowing how many miles/hours of abuse these springs have.....
If you cant get your money back go for it, either drop the schackles to clear the floor or pick up a set for the F 150 (2wd) and use a washer or two and you will be good to go.
Let us know how it goes with the narrower spring, if you keep them.
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I decided to get my money back and fortunately the guy was really cool about it.
Thanks for that info Polar...Wow you got a smokin deal on those leafs! I'll give deaver and like you said, maybe they will work with me! Are you running a longer shackle?
Thanks for that info Polar...Wow you got a smokin deal on those leafs! I'll give deaver and like you said, maybe they will work with me! Are you running a longer shackle?
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in stock shock mount locations whats the compressed length of the shock need to be so the truck still bottoms in stock location?
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I don't have any idea. But maybe one of the Bilstein guys knows?
Sho nuff,
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Bump to the top for some of the new guys.
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Re: Start Your Go-Fast Build-Rear Suspension
Maybe make these stickies?
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